Soncino English Talmud
Shabbat
Daf 80a
It was taught: Two letters in ink, two letters on a pen, or two letters in an inkstand [involve culpability]. Raba asked: What [if one carries out sufficient for] one letter [in the form of] dry ink, one letter on the pen, and one letter in an inkstand? The question stands over. Raba said: If one carries out [ink sufficient for writing] two letters, and writes them whilst walking, he is culpable: the writing is tantamount to depositing. Raba also said: If one carries out [ink sufficient for writing] one letter [only] and writes it down. and then again carries out [sufficient for] one letter, and writes it down, he is not culpable. What is the reason? By the time he carries out the second, the standard of the first is defective. Raba also said: If one carries out half a dried fig and deposits it, and then carries out another half of a dried fig and deposits it, the first is regarded as though caught by a dog or burnt, and he is not culpable. But why so: surely it is lying there! — He means this: But if one anticipates and takes up the first before the depositing of the second, the first is regarded as though caught up by a dog or burnt, and he is not culpable. Raba also said: If one carries out half of a dried fig and deposits it and then carries out another half of a dried fig over the same route as the first, he is liable. But why: surely it does not rest [in the street]? E.g., if he carries it within three [handbreadths]. But Raba said: [An article brought] within three [handbreadths] must, according to the Rabbis, be deposited upon something of small size [at least]? — There is no difficulty. The latter reference is to throwing; the former is to carrying. Our Rabbis taught: If one carries out half a dried fig, and then carries out another half of a dried fig in one state of unawareness, he is culpable; in two states of unawareness, he is not culpable. R. Jose said: In one state of unawareness [and] into the same ground he is culpable; into two [different] grounds, he is not culpable. Rabbah said: Providing that there lies between them a domain involving liability to a sin-offering; but a karmelith does not [effect a separation]. Abaye said: Even a karmelith [separates them], but not a board. But Raba maintained: Even a board [separates them]. Now Raba is consistent with his ruling [elsewhere]; for Raba said: [The law of] domains in respect to the Sabbath is the same as domains in respect to divorces. STIBIUM, FOR PAINTING ONE EYE: But one eye [alone] is not painted? — Said R. Huna: Because modest women paint [only] one eye. An objection is raised: As for stibium, if [carried out] for medicinal use, [the standard is] as much as is required for painting one eye; if for adornment, [the standard is] two eyes? — Hillel son of R. Samuel b. Nahmani explained it: That was taught in reference to small-towners. PASTE, FOR PUTTING ON THE TOP OF A LIME BOARD. A Tanna taught: As much as is required for putting on the top of a lime board of a hunter's rod. WAX, FOR PUTTING OVER A SMALL HOLE. It was taught: As much as is required for putting over a small wine hole. CLAY, FOR MAKING A HOLE IN A GOLD-REFINER'S POT, etc. Shall we say that R. Judah's standard is larger? But we know the Rabbis' standard to be larger, for we learnt: R. JUDAH SAID: AS MUCH AS IS REQUIRED FOR TAKING THE MEASURE OF A CHILD'S SHOE? — Say, as much as is required for plastering [the splits in] the tripod leg of a small stove.