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Shabbat
Daf 101a
R. Judah said: If it is ten [handbreadths] deep [internally] but not ten high, one may transport from it into the sea, but not from the sea into it. Why not from the sea into it: because we [thus] transport from a karmelith into private ground? Then from it into the sea, one also transports from private ground to a karmelith? Hence it must surely mean on its edge. which proves that they do not forbid one's force in connection with a karmelith: this proves it. R. Huna said: As for the canal boats of Mesene, we may carry in them only within [a distance of] four cubits. But we say this only if they lack [a breadth of] four [handbreadths] at less than three [from the bottom edge]; but if they have [a breadth of] four at less than three, we have no objection; or if they are filled with canes and bullrushes, we have no objection. R. Nahman demurred to this: But let us say, Stretch and bring the partitions down. Was it not taught, R. Jose son of R. Judah said: If one plants a rod in the street, at the top of which is a basket, and throws [an article] and it comes to rest upon it, he is liable: this proves that we say. Stretch and bring the partitions down, so here too let us say, Stretch and bring the partition down? R. Joseph demurred to this, Yet did they not hear what was said by Rab Judah in Rab's name, which some trace to R. Hiyya: And it was taught thereon, But the Sages exempt [him]? Said Abaye to him: And do you not hold thus? But it was taught: If a pillar in the street [is] ten [handbreadths] high and four broad, but its base is not four, and this narrow portion is three [in height], and one throws [an article] and it alights upon it, he is liable: this proves that we say, Stretch and bring the partitions down; so here too, stretch and bring the partition down. Hence [Abaye continues]. this is surely [not] an argument; there it is partition through which goats can pass; but here they are partitions through which goats cannot pass. R. Aha son of R. Aha said to R. Ashi: But in the case of a ship too, there is the passing through of fish? The passing through of fish is not designated passing through, he replied. And whence do you say this? For R. Tabla asked Rab: Can a suspended partition make a ruin permissible [for carrying therein]? And he answered him: A suspended partition makes [something] permissible only
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