Soncino English Talmud
Sukkah
Daf 30b
and there is no [title to] land by robbery;1 therefore let them cut it down, so that there may be abandonment [of right]2 by the owner while it is in their possession,3 and change of domain4 in your hands.5 But in any case, even when the traders cut the myrtles, let abandonment [of right] by the owner take place when these are in their hands, and change of domain when they are in the hands of the purchasers?6 — It is necessary [to state this law] only with regard to the hoshanna7 of the traders themselves.8 But why could they not acquire possession of them by the change they make in it?9 — [R. Huna] is of the opinion that the palm-branch [wreath] does not need binding;10 and [even] if you were to find some ground for saying that the palm-branch wreath does need binding, [still] the change would be one that can be removed by restoring the object to its original condition11 which is not regarded as a valid change. But why should they not acquire possession by virtue of the change of name, since previously12 it was called asa [myrtle] and now Jewish owner and thus invalid to the purchaser. possessor unless there was in addition either (a) a change of domain, (b) a change in the nature of the object, or (c) a change in its name (v. B.K. 67a). But even if abandonment alone were sufficient, the robbery, if the traders themselves had cut the myrtles, would have been committed by them, and they would have been guilty of performing a precept by means of a transgression. domain and they (the users) would be committing the robbery.
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