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Parallel Talmud

Sukkah — Daf 30b

Babylonian Talmud (Gemara) · Soncino English Talmud

וקרקע אינה נגזלת הלכך לגזזוה אינהו כי היכי דליהוו יאוש בעלים בידייהו דידהו ושינוי הרשות בידייכו

סוף סוף כי גזזו אוונכרי ליהוי יאוש בעלים בידייהו ושינוי הרשות בידן לא צריכא בהושענא דאוונכרי גופייהו

וליקניוה בשינוי מעשה קא סבר לולב אין צריך אגד

ואם תמצי לומר לולב צריך אגד שינוי החוזר לברייתו הוא ושינוי החוזר לברייתו לא שמיה שינוי

וליקניוה בשינוי השם דמעיקרא הוה ליה אסא והשתא

and there is no [title to] land by robbery; therefore let them cut it down, so that there may be abandonment [of right] by the owner while it is in their possession, and change of domain in your hands. But in any case, even when the traders cut the myrtles, let abandonment [of right] by the owner take place when these are in their hands, and change of domain when they are in the hands of the purchasers? — It is necessary [to state this law] only with regard to the hoshanna of the traders themselves. But why could they not acquire possession of them by the change they make in it? — [R. Huna] is of the opinion that the palm-branch [wreath] does not need binding; and [even] if you were to find some ground for saying that the palm-branch wreath does need binding, [still] the change would be one that can be removed by restoring the object to its original condition which is not regarded as a valid change. But why should they not acquire possession by virtue of the change of name, since previously it was called asa [myrtle] and now