Soncino English Talmud
Shabbat
Daf 50a
THE LID [OF THE POT] IS LIFTED, AND THEY [THE SHEARINGS] FALL OFF OF THEIR OWN ACCORD. Rather if stated, it was thus stated: Raba said: They learnt this only when one had not designated them for storing, but if he had, they may be handled. It was stated likewise: When Rabin came, he said in the name of R. Jacob in the name of R. Assi b. Saul in Rab's name: They learnt this only where one had not designated them for [constant] storing; but if he had designated them for [constant) storing, they may be handled. Rabina said: They [the Sages of the Mishnah] learnt in reference to the [merchant's] shelves. it was taught likewise: Wool shearings of the shelves may not be handled; but if a private individual prepared them for use, they may be handled. Rabbah b. Bar Hanah recited before Rab: If one cuts down dried branches of a palm tree for fuel and then changes his mind, [intending them] for a seat, he must tie [them] together; R. Simeon b. Gamaliel said: He need not tie them together. He recited it and he stated it: The halachah is as R. Simeon b. Gamaliel. It was stated: Rab said: He must tie [them] together; Samuel maintained: He must intend [to sit upon them]: while R. Assi ruled: If he sits upon them, though he had neither tied nor intended them [for sitting, it is well]. As for Rab, it is well: he rules as the first Tanna: and Samuel too [is not refuted, for he] rules as R. Simeon b. Gamaliel. But according to whom does R. Assi rule? — He rules as the following Tanna. For it was taught: One may go out [into the street] with a wool tuft or a flake of Wool, if he had dipped them [in oil] and tied them with a cord. If he did not dip them [in oil] and tie them with a cord, he may not go out with them; yet if he had gone out with them for one moment before nightfall, even if he had not dipped or tied them with a cord, he may go out with them [on the Sabbath]. R. Ashi said, We too have learnt [so]: One must not move straw [lying] upon a bed with his hand, yet he may move it with his body; but if it is fodder for animals, or a pillow or a sheet was upon it before nightfall, he may move it with his hand. And which Tanna disagrees with R. Simeon b. Gamaliel? R. Hanina b. Akiba. For when R. Dimi came, he said in the name of Ze'iri in R. Hanina's name: R. Hanina b. Akiba once went to a certain place and found dried branches of a palm tree cut down, and he said to his disciples, 'Go out and declare your intention, so that we may be able to sit upon them tomorrow'. And I do not know whether it was a house of feasting or a house of mourning. Since he says, '[I do not know] whether it was a house of feasting or a house of mourning', [it implies] only there, because they are occupied; but elsewhere it must be tied together; but if not, it is not [permitted]. Rab Judah said: A man may bring a sack full of earth [into the house] and use it for his general needs. Mar Zutra lectured in the name of Mar Zutra Rabbah: Providing that he allotted a certain corner to it. Said the students before R. Papa: With whom [does this agree]: R. Simeon b. Gamaliel? For if with the Rabbis, — an act is required! — R. Papa answered: You may even say, with the Rabbis. The Rabbis ruled that an act is required only where an act is possible, but not where it is impossible. Shall we say that this is disputed by Tannaim? Utensils may be cleaned with anything, save silver vessels with white earth. This [implies] that natron and sand are permitted. But surely it was taught, Natron and sand are forbidden? Surely they differ in this: one Master holds that an act is required, while the other Master holds that no act is required? No. All agree that no act is required, yet there is no difficulty: one is according to R. Judah, who maintains, What is unintentional is forbidden; the other is according to R. Simeon, who rules, What is unintentional is permitted. How have you explained the view that it is permitted? As agreeing with R. Simeon! Then consider the last clause: But one must not cleanse his hair with them. Rather if R. Simeon, surely he permits it? For we learnt: