Soncino English Talmud
Pesachim
Daf 76b
Fat meat of a [ritually] slaughtered [animal] which was roasted together with lean meat of nebelah1 is forbidden. What is the reason? They fatten each other.2 But Levi maintained: Even lean meat of a [ritually] slaughtered [animal] which was roasted together with fat meat of nebelah is permitted. What is the reason? It is a mere smell, and smell is nothing. Levi gave a practical decision3 at the house of the Resh Galutha4 in the case of a goat and ‘something else.’5 An objection is raised: One may not roast two Passover offerings together, on account of the mixture. Surely that means, the mixture of [the] flavours,6 which is a difficulty on Levi's view? No: [it means] the mixture of their carcasses.7 This too is logical, since the second clause teaches: Even a kid and a lamb. Now it is well if you say [that it is] on account of the carcasses: hence he teaches, ‘even a kid and a lamb.’8 But if you say [that it is] on account of the mingling of [the] flavours, what does it matter whether it is a kid and a lamb or a kid and a kid? — What then? You are bound [to say] that it is forbidden only on account of the mixing of the carcasses, but the mingling of flavours is permitted; shall we say [then] that this is a refutation of Rab? — Said R. Jeremiah: The case we discuss here9 is e.g., where he roasted them in two pots. [You say] ‘In two pots — can you think so!10 — Rather say, as though [they were roasted in] two pots,11 and this is what it teaches: One may not roast two Passover-offerings together, on account of the mixture. What mixture? The mixture of the flavours. And even [when roasted] as it were in two pots it is forbidden on account of the [possible] confusing of the carcasses, and even a kid and a lamb [must not be roasted together]. R. Mari said: This is dependent on Tannaim. If a man removes a hot loaf [from the oven] and places It on a wine barrel of terumah, — R. Meir forbids it;12 whereas R. Judah permits it; while R. Jose permits it in the case of [a loaf of] wheat, but forbids it in the case of barley [flour], because barley absorbs. Surely then it is dependent on Tannaim, one Master holding: Smell is nothing; while the other Master holds: Smell is something [substantial]? According to Levi, it is certainly dependent on Tannaim.13 Shall we say that it is [dependent on] Tannaim according to Rab [too]? — Rab can tell you: All agree that smell is something [substantial]; [and as to the ruling of R. Judah] was it not stated thereon, Rabbah b. Bar Hanah said in the name of Resh Lakish: In the case of a hot loaf and an open barrel, all agree that it is forbidden; in the case of a cold loaf and a closed [stoppered] barrel, all agree that it is permitted. They differ only in the case of a hot loaf and a sealed barrel, [or] a cold loaf and an open barrel;14 and this too15 is like a hot loaf and an open barrel.16 R. Kahana the son of R. Hinena the Elder recited: A loaf which was baked together with roast [meat] in an oven may not be eaten with kutah.17 A fish was roasted [i.e., baked] together with meat, [whereupon] Raba of Parzikia18 forbade it to be eaten with kutah. Mar b. R. Ashi said: Even with salt too it is forbidden, because it is harmful to [one's] smell and in respect of ‘something else.’19 MISHNAH. FIVE THINGS [SACRIFICES] MAY COME IN UNCLEANNESS, YET MUST NOT BE EATEN IN UNCLEANNESS: THE ‘OMER,20 THE TWO LOAVES,21 THE SHEWBREAD,22 THE SACRIFICES OF THE PUBLIC PEACE-OFFERINGS,23 AND THE HE-GOATS OF NEW MOONS.24 THE PASCHAL LAMB WHICH COMES IN UNCLEANNESS IS EATEN IN UNCLEANNESS, FOR FROM THE VERY BEGINNING IT CAME FOR NO OTHER PURPOSE BUT TO BE EATEN. GEMARA. What does ‘FIVE’ exclude?25 — It excludes the hagigah [for example] of the fifteenth.26 For I might argue, since it is a public sacrifice27 and a season is fixed for it, let it override uncleanness; therefore he informs us [that] since you can make it up the whole seven [days],28 it does not override the Sabbath,29 and since it does not override the Sabbath, it does not override uncleanness. Now, let him [the Tanna] state the he-goats of festivals too?30 — He does indeed state THE SACRIFICES OF THE PUBLIC PEACE-OFFERINGS.31 If so, let him not state the he-goats of New Moons either, seeing that he States THE SACRIFICES OF THE PUBLIC PEACE-OFFERINGS? — I will tell you: forbidden enters the permitted meat and renders it forbidden too. — Hence if the meat of nebelah itself is fat, it is certainly forbidden. registered for that animal. through the handling of the officiating priest; nevertheless, they may not be eaten for they are brought merely in discharge of public obligations, but their main purpose is not to be eaten. in uncleanness etc.