Soncino English Talmud
Pesachim
Daf 74b
[the blood] indeed oozes out.1 Shall we say that this supports him: The heart must be torn and the blood withdrawn;2 if he did not tear it [open], he must tear it after it is boiled3 and it is permitted.4 What is the reason? Is it not because we say, as it absorbs, so it exudes?5 — The heart is different, because it is smooth.6 But surely Rabin the Elder put a paste of dough over a [roasted] pigeon for Rab, and he [Rab] said to him, ‘If the paste is good [tasty], give it me and I will eat it?’7 — That was [done] with [a paste of] fine flour, which is crumbly.8 But Raba visited the home of the Resh Galutha9 and they put a paste of dough over a [roasted] duck for him. Said he, ‘Had I not seen that it was as clear as white glass, I would not eat of it.’ Now should you think, as it absorbs, so it exudes, why particularly when it is clear; [it is permitted] even if not clear? — There it was [prepared] with white flour, so that it [the paste] is compact.10 Now the law is: [a paste] of finest flour, whether it looks red or does not look red, is permitted;11 [a paste] of white flour: if it is as clear as white glass, it is permitted, if not, it is forbidden; [a paste] of other flours: if it looks red, it is forbidden; if it does not look red, it is permitted. [As to] a stuffed [lamb], he who forbids [does so] even if the mouth is at the bottom; while he who permits [does so] even if the mouth is on top. Now the law is: a stuffed [lamb, etc.] is permitted even if the mouth is on top.12 [With regard to] raw meat,13 eggs,14 and the jugular veins, R. Aha and Rabina differ therein. (In the whole Torah15 R. Aha is stringent while Rabina is lenient, and the law is as Rabina [viz.,] as the lenient [view]; except in these three, where R. Aha is lenient and Rabina is stringent, and the law is as R. Aha, [viz.,] as the lenient view.) If raw meat turns reddish, if one cuts16 and salts it, it is permitted even for a pot; if one impales it on a spit [over the fire], it is permitted,17 [because] it [the blood] certainly oozes out. If he placed it on [burning] coals, R. Aha and Rabina differ therein; one forbids and the other permits. He who forbids [holds that] it [the fire] binds [the blood],18 while he who permits [holds] that it draws [the blood] out. And the law is: it does indeed draw [the blood] out. Similarly with eggs: if he cut and salted them, they are permitted even for a pot. If he suspended them from a spit, they are permitted, [because] it [the blood] certainly oozes out. If he laid them on coals, Aha and Rabina differ therein: one forbids and the other permits them. He who forbids [holds]: it certainly binds [the blood]; while he who permits [maintains]: it draws it out. Similarly with the [throat portion containing the] jugular veins: if he cut and salted it, it is permitted even for a pot; if he suspended it on a spit, the place of the cut19 being underneath,20 it is permitted, [because] it does indeed ooze out. If he laid it on coals, R. Aha and Rabina differ therein: one forbids and the other permits. He who forbids [holds]: it does indeed bind [the blood]; while he who permits [maintains]: it draws it out. And the law is: it draws it out. Raw meat which turns red, its serum is forbidden;21 if it does not turn red, its serum is permitted. Rabina said: Even if it does not turn red, its serum is forbidden, [for] it cannot but contain streaks of blood. Mar b. Amemar said to R. Ashi: My father did indeed drink it.22 Others say: R. Ashi himself drank it. Mar b. Amemar said to R. Ashi: Vinegar which had been used once for contracting [meat],23 my father would not use it again for contracting’.24 How does it differ from weak vinegar, which may be used for contracting’? — There v. II Chron. XXXV, 13: and they boiled (wa-yebashshelu) the passover with fire according to the ordinance. another, and it is now suggested that it exudes the same blood, since it is roasted over an open fire. directly over the fire we certainly cannot say, so it exudes. it. mere hue which it leaves. through the flesh. another. But if it remains in its original place, e.g., when raw meat is pickled dry, it is permitted (Rashi). membrane which is forbidden on account of blood, hence the controversy.