Soncino English Talmud
Ketubot
Daf 36a
are really forbidden relations and prohibitions of the second degree [are those relations which were forbidden] by the Rabbis? Why should the latter not receive the fine since they are fit for him Biblically? — But, forbidden relations are those with regard to which one is liable to the penalty of death at the hand of the Court, prohibitions of the second degree are those with regard to which there is kareth; but in the case of prohibitions with regard to which one trespasses a plain prohibitory law, they receive the fine. And whose opinion is it? [It is that of] Simeon the Temanite. Some say: 'Forbidden relations' are those with regard to which one is liable to the penalty of death at the hand of the Court or kareth, 'prohibitions of the second degree are those with regard to which one transgresses a plain prohibitory law. Whose opinion is this? That of R. Simeon b. Menassia. [It is said above:] 'A barren woman has no claim to fine [for outrage] or to indemnity for seduction. A contradiction was raised against this: A woman who is a deaf-mute, or an idiot, or barren, has a claim to fine [for outrage], and a suit can be brought [by her husband] against her concerning her virginity. What contradiction is there? The one [Baraitha] is according to R. Meir and the other [Baraitha] is according to the Rabbis! But he who raised the questions how could he raise it at all? — He wanted to raise another contradiction: Against a woman who is a deaf-mute, or an idiot, or has reached maturity, or lost her virginity through an accident, no suit can be brought concerning her virginity; against a woman who is blind or barren, a suit can be brought concerning her virginity. Symmachus says in the name of R. Meir: Against a blind woman a suit cannot be brought concerning her virginity! — Said R. Shesheth: This is not difficult: the one [Baraitha] is according to R. Gamaliel and the other [Baraitha] is according to R. Joshua. [But] say when does R. Gamaliel hold this view? When she pleads; but does he hold this view when she does not plead — Yes, since R. Gamaliel holds that she is believed, [we apply], in a case like this, [the verse], Open thy mouth for the dumb. 'And against a woman who has reached maturity, one cannot bring a suit concerning her virginity.' Did not Rab say: To a woman who has reached maturity one gives the [whole] first night?
Sefaria
Niddah 52a · Yevamot 12a · Niddah 52b · Ketubot 40b · Sukkah 33b · Sukkah 54b · Proverbs 31:8 · Proverbs 21:8 · Niddah 64b
Mesoret HaShas
Niddah 64b · Niddah 52a · Yevamot 12a · Niddah 52b · Sukkah 33b · Sukkah 54b