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זבחים 75

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Abaye raised an objection to him: If an individual's sacrifice was mixed up with an individual's sacrifice, or a congregational sacrifice with a congregational sacrifice, or if an individual's sacrifice and a congregational sacrifice were mixed up, [the priest] must make four applications [of the blood] of each [sacrifice]; Yet if he made an application of each, he has fulfilled his obligation; and if he made four applications from all, it suffices. When is this said? If they were mixed up alive; but if they were mixed up after being slaughtered, he makes four applications for all of them; yet if he made one application, he fulfilled his duty. Rabbi said: We examine the application: if it contains sufficient for each, it is fit; if not, it is unfit. Now, he teaches about an individual who is similar to the congregation: as the congregation [consists of] men, so the individual [means] a man! — Said Raba: And is it reasonable that this is correct [as it stands]? [Surely not,] for he teaches: When is this said? if they were mixed up alive; but not if they were mixed up when slaughtered. But what does it matter whether they are alive or slaughtered? Rather, this is what he means: when is this said? If they were mixed up, when slaughtered, as if they were alive, [viz.,] the goblets [were mixed up]; but where one mingled [the blood in one goblet], [the priest] makes four applications for all of them; yet if he made one application on behalf of all, he has fulfilled his duty. ‘Rabbi said: We examine the application: if it contains sufficient for each, it is fit; if not, it is unfit.’ Now does Rabbi hold this view? Surely it was taught: Rabbi said: According to R. Eliezer,
sprinkling, no matter how little, cleanses; sprinkling does not require a definite standard; sprinkling [is valid even if the mixture is] half fit and half unfit? — He states [the law] according to R. Eliezer. Alternatively, sprinkling [upon a person] is one thing, while a [blood] application is another. IF THEY WERE MIXED UP WITH A FIRSTLING OR TITHE etc. Rami b. Hama said: According to Beth Shammai, a firstling may not be given as food to menstruant women; what about its substitute? A firstling cannot be redeemed; what about its substitute? A firstling cannot be weighed by the pound; what about its substitute? — Said Raba: It was taught: A firstling and tithe, [even] when they became blemished, effect substitution. and their substitute is like themselves. Rami b. Hama asked: If one dedicated a [blemished] firstling for the Temple repair, can it be weighed by the pound? Is the profit of hekdesh of greater consideration, or is the degradation of the firstling of greater consideration? — Said R. Jose b. Zebida, Come and hear: IF THEY WERE MIXED UP WITH A FIRSTLING OR TITHE, THEY MUST GRAZE UNTIL THEY BECOME UNFIT, AND THEN THEY ARE EATEN AS FIRSTLING OR TITHE. Surely that means that they are not weighed by the pound? — R. Huna and R. Hezekiah, disciples of R. Jeremiah, said: How compare? There you have two sanctities and two bodies, but here you have two sanctities and one body. To this R. Jose b. Abin demurred: What if he said, ‘Redeem me a firstling’ which he had devoted to Temple repair: Would we heed him? — [If he says,] ‘Redeem’ — [surely] the Divine Law said that it must not be redeemed! — Rather said R. Ammi: Did he transmit ought save what he possessed? ALL [SACRIFICES] CAN BE MIXED UP etc. Why are a sin-offering and a guilt-offering different; [presumably] because one is a male and the other is a female? Then the same applies to a sin-offering and a burnt-offering? — There is the ruler's he-goat. In the case of a guilt-offering too, there is the ruler's he-goat? — One has hair and the other has wool. A Passover-offering and a guilt-offering too cannot be mixed up, for the former is a year old, while the latter is two years old? — There are the nazirite's guilt-offering and the leper's guilt-offering. Alternatively, sometimes a year old looks like a two-year old, and sometimes a two-year old looks like a year old. MISHNAH. IF A GUILT-OFFERING WAS MIXED UP WITH A PEACE-OFFERING, R. SIMEON SAID: THEY MUST BE SLAUGHTERED AT THE NORTH [SIDE OF THE ALTAR] AND EATEN IN ACCORDANCE WITH [THE LAWS OF] THE MORE STRINGENT OF THEM. SAID THEY TO HIM: ONE MUST NOT BRING SACRIFICES TO THE PLACE OF UNFITNESS. IF PIECES [OF FLESH] WERE MIXED UP WITH PIECES [OF FLESH], MOST SACRED SACRIFICES WITH LESSER SACRIFICES, [PIECES] THAT ARE EATEN ONE DAY WITH [THOSE] THAT ARE EATEN TWO DAYS AND ONE NIGHT, THEY MUST BE EATEN IN ACCORDANCE WITH [THE LAWS OF] THE MORE STRINGENT OF THEM. GEMARA. A Tanna recited before Rab: You must not purchase terumah with the money of seventh-year produce, because you diminish the time allowed for its consumption. The Rabbis stated in Rabbah's presence: This does not agree with R. Simeon, for if it agreed with R. Simeon, surely he maintained: One may bring sacrifices to the place of unfitness. Said he to them: You may say that it agrees even with R. Simeon: That is only when it was done, but not at the very outset. ‘But not at the outset’? Abaye raised an objection to him: