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Parallel Talmud

Zevachim — Daf 73b

Babylonian Talmud (Gemara) · Soncino English Talmud

וכל קבוע כמחצה על מחצה דמי אלא ניכבשינהו דניידי ונימא כל דפריש מרובא פריש

אמר רבא (השתא דאמור רבנן לא ניקרב) גזירה שמא יבאו י' כהנים בבת אחת ויקרבו

א"ל ההוא מרבנן לרבא אלא מעתה מגיסא אסירא

משום שמא יבאו י' כהנים בבת אחת ויקחו בעשרה כהנים בבת אחת מי אפשר אלא אמר רבא משום קבוע

אמר רבא השתא דאמרי רבנן לא נקריב אי נקריב לא מרצי איתיביה רב הונא בר יהודה לרבא חטאת שנתערבה בעולה ועולה שנתערבה בחטאת אפי' אחת בריבוא ימותו כולן

במה דברים אמורים בכהן נמלך אבל בכהן שאין נמלך עשאן למעלה מחצה כשר ומחצה פסול

למטה מחצה כשר ומחצה פסול אחת למטה ואחת למעלה שניהן פסולות שאני אומר חטאת קריבה למעלה ועולה קריבה למטה

אלא הא כמאן דאמר בעלי חיים נדחין הא כמאן דאמר בעלי חיים אינן נידחין

הרי שחוטין דלכולי עלמא נידחין

and every [case of] kabua’ is like half and half?1 — Rather, [the difficulty is this]: Let us force them to scatter and then say, whatever is detached, is detached from the majority? — Said Raba: We fear lest [e.g.] ten priests come at the same time and offer them.2 One of the Rabbis observed to Raba: If so, is the tray forbidden?3 — [Rather the reason is] because [we fear] lest [e.g.] ten priests come and take them simultaneously.4 Is that possible?5 — Rather said Raba: The reason is because of kabua’.6 Raba said: Since the Rabbis ruled that we must not offer them, if one does offer, it [each animal] does not propitiate.7 R. Huna b. Judah raised an objection to Raba: If a sin-offering was mixed up with a burnt-offering, or a burnt-offering with a sin-offering,8 even one in ten thousand, all must die.9 When is this? If the priest consulted [the authorities].10 But if the priest did not consult [the authorities], and he sacrificed them [all] above,11 half are fit and half are unfit;12 below, half are fit and half are unfit. [If he sacrificed] one above and one below, both are unfit, for I assume [that] the sin-offering was offered above, and the burnt-offering below!13 — Said he to him:14 This [my ruling] is in accordance with the view that live animals can be [permanently] rejected; the other is in accordance with the view that live animals cannot be [permanently] rejected.15 But what about slaughtered animals regarding which all agree that they are [permanently] rejected, kabua’, fixed, settled in a certain place; otherwise it is equal to the majority; v. Sanh. (Sonc. ed.) p. 531, n. 4. Here, the forbidden animal being kabua’, is therefore equal to the majority. the blood of ten animals or present their emurim (these are the essential acts of offering) simultaneously. Now, where e.g. the ten constitute the majority, they may therefore be assumed to include the forbidden one. their emurim are on the tray, waiting to be presented at the altar? That is absurd. scattered, which, as stated above, is forbidden. obligation. yet if he does, those offered properly are fit. The same then should apply here.