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סוכה 20:2
Soncino English Talmud · Berean Standard Bible
that they are susceptible to [ritual] uncleanliness, or of Tiberias that they are not susceptible. About what do they dispute? About those of other places. One Master is of the opinion that since they are not [as a rule] used for sitting upon, they are like those of Tiberias, and the Masters are of the opinion that since it sometimes happens that they are ‘used for sitting upon, they are like those of ‘Usha. The Master said: ‘All reed mats are susceptible to corpse uncleanliness. These are the words of R. Dosa’. But was it not taught: ‘And R. Dosa also said according to his words’? -This is no difficulty. The former refers to one that has a rim, the latter to one that has no rim. . It was objected: Mats of bamboo, of reed grass, of sackcloth or of goat's-hair are susceptible to corpse uncleanliness, so R. Dosa, while the Sages say, They are also susceptible to midras uncleanliness. It is well according to him who says [that hozloth means] ‘bags filed with foliage’, since those of bamboo and of reed-grass can be used for baling fruit, while those of sackcloth and goat's-hair can be used for haversacks or baskets, but according to him who says that it means ‘real matting’, it is well with regard to those of sackcloth and goat's-hair, since they can be used for curtains or for sieves but to what use can those of bamboo and reed-grass be put? — They can be used for [covering] brewing vats. Some read [as follows]: It is well according to him who says [that hozloth means] ‘real matting’, since those of bamboo and reed-grass may be used for [covering] brewing vats while those of sackcloth and goat's hair can be used for curtains or for sieves, but according to him who says that it means ‘bags filled with foliage, it is well with regard to those of sackcloth and goat's hair which may be used for haversacks or baskets, but to what use can those of bamboo and reed-grass be put? — They may be used for baling fruit. It was taught: R. Hanina stated, When I journeyed in the Diaspora I came across an old man who said to me, ‘A reedmat may be used as a Sukkah-covering’. And when I came before R. Joshua, my father's brother, he agreed with his words. R. Hisda said, Only if it has no rim. ‘Ulla said, Those mats of the people of Mahuza, were it not for their rim, would be valid as a Sukkah-covering. So it has also been taught: Reed mats are valid as a Sukkah-covering, but if they have rims they are invalid as a Sukkah-covering. MISHNAH. HE WHO SLEEPS UNDER A BED IN THE SUKKAH HAS NOT FULFILLED HIS OBLIGATION. R. JUDAH STATED, WE WERE ACCUSTOMED TO SLEEP UNDER A BED IN THE PRESENCE OF THE ELDERS, AND THEY SAID NAUGHT TO US. R. SIMEON SAID, IT HAPPENED THAT TABI, THE SLAVE OF RABBAN GAMALIEL, USED TO SLEEP UNDER A BED. AND R. GAMALIEL SAID TO THE ELDERS, ‘YE HAVE SEEN TABI MY SLAVE, WHO IS A SCHOLAR, AND KNOWS THAT SLAVES ARE EXEMPT FROM [THE LAW OF] A SUKKAH, THEREFORE DOES HE SLEEP UNDER THE BED’, AND INCIDENTAlly WE LEARNED THAT HE WHO SLEEPS UNDER A BED HAS NOT FULFILLED HIS OBLIGATION. GEMARA. But, surely, there are no ten [handbreadths in the height of the BED, are there]? — Samuel interpreted, [that it refers to] a bed which is ten [handbreadths high]. We have learnt elsewhere, A hole which has been hollowed out by water or by insects or eaten through by saline corrosion, and similarly a row of stones, or a pile of beams, overshadow uncleanliness. R. Judah said, Any ‘tent’ which is not made by the hands of man is not considered as a tent. What is the reason of R. Judah?
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