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פסחים 30:2
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one must not grease an oven with fat, and if he does grease it, all the bread [baked therein] is forbidden until the oven is refired. Which [implies], if the oven is refired it is nevertheless permitted? This is a refutation of Raba b. Ahilai! — [It is indeed] a refutation. Rabina said to R. Ashi: Now since Raba b. Ahilai was refuted, why did Rab say, Pots must be broken on Passover? — There it was a metal oven, replied he, [whereas] here an earthen pot [is referred to]. Alternatively, both refer to earthenware: this [the oven] is fired from the inside; while the other [the pot] is fired on the outside. And should you say, here too let him burn it [the pot] out from within, — he would spare it, lest it burst. Therefore a tiled pan, since it is burnt from without, is forbidden; but if he filled it with coals, it is permitted. Rabina asked R. Ashi: What does one do about the knives on Passover? — I provide [make] new ones for myself, he replied. That is well for you, who can [afford] this, said he to him, [but] what about one who cannot [afford] this? I mean like new ones, he answered: [I thrust] their handles in loam, and their blades in fire, and then I place their handles in boiling water. But the law is: both the one and the other [need only be put] into boiling water, and in a ‘first’ vessel. R. Huna the son of R. Joshua said: A wooden pot ladle must be purified in boiling water and in a ‘first’ vessel. [Thus] he holds, as it absorbs, so it exudes. Meremar was asked: Glazed vessels, may they be used on Passover? About green ones there is no problem, as they are certainly forbidden; the question is, how about black ones and white ones? Again, if they have splits there is no question, as they are certainly forbidden; the question is, what about smooth ones? Said he to him: We see that they exude, which shows that they absorb; hence they are forbidden; and the Torah testified concerning an earthen vessel that it [the absorbed matter] never passes out from its sides. And what is the difference in respect of wine of nesek, that Meremar lectured: Glazed vessels, whether black, white, or green, are permitted? And should you answer, [the interdict of] wine of nesek is [only] Rabbinical, [whereas that of] leaven is Scriptural, — surely whatever the Rabbis enacted, they enacted similar to Scriptural law? — Said he to him: This is used with hot [matter], while the other is used with cold. Raba b. Abba said in R. Hiyya b. Ashi's name in Samuel's name: All utensils which were used with leavened matter [hamez], cold, may be used with unleavened bread [mazzah], except a container of se'or, because it is strongly leaven. R. Ashi said: And a haroseth container is like a container of se'or, because it is strongly leaven. Raba said: The kneading basins of Mahuza, since leaven is continually kneaded in them and leaven is kept in them are like a container of se'or, which is strongly leaven. That is obvious? — You might say, since they are wide, the air acts on them and they do not absorb. Therefore he informs us [otherwise]. MISHNAH. IF A GENTILE LENT [MONEY] TO AN ISRAELITE ON HIS LEAVEN, AFTER PASSOVER IT IS PERMITTED FOR USE. WHILE IF AN ISRAELITE LENT [MONEY] TO A GENTILE ON HIS LEAVEN, AFTER PASSOVER IT IS PROHIBITED FOR USE. GEMARA. It was stated: [In the case of] a creditor, — Abaye said: He collects retrospectively; while Raba said: He collects from now and onwards. Now, where the debtor sanctified [the pledge] or sold [it], all agree that the creditor can come and seize it, 27
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