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כתובות 39:1
Soncino English Talmud · Berean Standard Bible
But is she, however, capable of [normal] Mar son of R. Ashi raised the question in the following manner: Does death effect adolescence or not? — The question stands undecided. Raba enquired of Abaye: What [is the legal position if] he had intercourse and became betrothed? The other replied: Is it written in Scripture. 'Then the man … shall give unto the father of the damsel who was not a betrothed woman'? Following, however, your line of reasoning, [the first retorted, one can argue in respect] of what was taught: '[If the offender had] intercourse with her and she married [the fine] belongs to herself', is it written in Scripture. 'Then the man … shall give unto the father of the damsel who was not a married woman'? — What a comparison! There [the following analogy may well be made]: Since the state of MISHNAH. THE SEDUCER PAYS THREE FORMS [OF COMPENSATION] AND THE VIOLATOR FOUR. THE SEDUCER PAYS COMPENSATION FOR INDIGNITY AND BLEMISH AND THE [STATUTORY] FINE, WHILE THE VIOLATOR PAYS AN ADDITIONAL [FORM OF COMPENSATION] IN THAT HE PAYS FOR THE PAIN. WHAT [IS THE DIFFERENCE] BETWEEN [THE PENALTIES OF] A SEDUCER AND THOSE OF A VIOLATOR? THE VIOLATOR PAYS COMPENSATION FOR THE PAIN BUT THE SEDUCER DOES NOT PAY COMPENSATION FOR THE PAIN. THE VIOLATOR PAYS FORTHWITH BUT THE SEDUCER [PAYS ONLY] IF HE DISMISSES HER. THE VIOLATOR MUST DRINK OUT OF HIS POT45 BUT THE SEDUCER MAY DISMISS [THE GIRL] IF HE WISHES. WHAT IS MEANT BY 'MUST DRINK OUT OF HIS POT'? GEMARA. [For the] PAIN of what? — The father of Samuel replied: For the pain [he has inflicted] when he thrust her upon the ground. R. Zera demurred: Now then, if he had thrust her upon silk stuffs51 would he for a similar reason be exempt? And should you say that the law is so indeed, was it not [it may be retorted] taught: 'R. Simeon b. Judah stated in the name of R. Simeon. A violator does not pay compensation for the pain [he has inflicted] because
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