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עירובין 90:1
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that it was made for the purpose of facilitating the watch over his house garden. Rami b. Hama enquired: Is it permitted to move an object two cubits along a roof and two cubits along a column? — ‘What an enquiry’, Rabbah exclaimed: ‘is this? He is asking about a karmelith and a private domain!’ And Rami b. Hama? — In his ingenuity he was not careful in putting the question. He, however, meant to put the question thus: Is it permitted to move an object two cubits along a roof and two cubits along an exedra? Do we say: Since neither the one nor the other is fit for a dwelling-place, both are regarded as a single domain; or is it possible that as he movement of objects from one roof to another is forbidden so is also that between a roof and an exedra forbidden. R. Bebai b. Abaye enquired: Is it permissible to move an object two cubits on a roof and two cubits in a ruin? — Is not this enquiry, R. Kahana asked, identical with that of Rami b. Hama? — Would I’, R. Bebai b. Aba e retorted: ‘have come with the enquiry of another man merely to cre te difficulties? An exedra is unfit as a dwelling whereas a ruin is fit’. But if it is fit as a dwelling why Uid he raise the question? — His enquiry was in the nature of an alternative question: If, [he said in effect,] you will find [some reason] for answering that an exedra is unfit as a dwelling, [will you agree that] a ruin is fit for a dwelling, or is it possible [that the latter is subject to thL same law as the former, since] nëw at any rate it has no tenants? — This must remain undecided. Regarding a number of roofs on the same level, according to R. Meir, or a single )oof, according to the Rabbis, Rab ruled: It is permissible to move objects through their ¯r[as, and Samuel ruled: Objects maÜ be moved only within four cubits. As ‘Rab ruled: It is permissi·le to move objeots throughout their areas, does not a contradiction arise between two rulings of Rab? There the walls are undistinguishable but, here, the wallsP are distinguishable. But since ‘Samuel ruled: Objects may be moved only within four cubitb’, does not a contradiction arise between two rulings of Samuel? — There the area was not bigger than two beth se'ah but here it is bigger than two beth se'ah, and, since those walls were made for dwelling purposes only below but not on the roof’ area above, the latter is like a karpaf bigger than two beth se'ah, that was not surrounded by walls for dwelling purposes, and in any karpaf bigger than two beth se'ah that was not surrounded by walls for dwelling purposes, no objects may be moved exc.pt within four cubits. It was stated: As regards a ship, Rab ruled: It is permissible to move objects about throughout its area, and Samuel ruled: Objects may be moved only wthin four cubits. ‘Rab“ruled: It is permissible to move objects about throughout its area’
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