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עירובין 38
Soncino English Talmud · Berean Standard Bible
do you not agree that the skin might burst and the man would thus have been drinking liquids of tebel?’ And he replied: ‘When it will have burst [there would be time for the question to be considered]’. MISHNAH. R. ELIEZER RULED: IF A FESTIVAL DAY IMMEDIATELY PRECEDES OR FOLLOWS THE SABBATH A MAN MAY PREPARE TWO ‘ERUBS AND MAKE THE FOLLOWING DECLARATION: MY ‘ERUB FOR THE FIRST [DAY SHALL BE THAT] OF THE EAST AND THE ONE FOR THE SECOND DAY THAT OF THE WEST’; ‘THE ONE FOR THE FIRST DAY [SHALL BE THAT] OF THE WEST AND THE ONE FOR THE SECOND DAY THAT OF THE EAST; ‘MY ‘ERUB [SHALL BE EFFECTIVE] FOR THE FIRST DAY, AND FOR THE SECOND DAY [I SHALL RETAIN THE SAME RIGHTS] AS THE PEOPle OF MY TOWN’, OR ‘MY ‘ERUB [SHAll BE EFFECTIVE] FOR THE SECOND DAY, AND FOR THE FIRST DAY [I SHALL RETAIN THE SAME RIGHTS] AS THE PEOPle OF MY TOWN — THE SAGES, HOWEVER, RULED: HE EITHER PREPARES AN ERUB FOR ONE DIRECTION OR NONE AT ALL; HE EITHER PREPARES ONE ‘ERUB FOR THE TWO DAYS OR NONE AT ALL. HOW IS ONE TO ACT? HE ARRANGES [FOR THE ‘ERUB] TO BE CARRIED [TO THE REQUIRED SPOT] ON THE FIRST DAY [BY A DEPUTY] WHO, HAVING REMAINED THERE WITH IT UNTIL DUSK’, TAKES IT UP AND GOES AWAY. ON THE SECOND [DAY THE ‘ERUB IS AGAIN CARRIED THERE AND] KEPT UNTIL DUSK WHEN [THE DEPUTY] EATS IT AND GOES AWAY. HE THUS BENEFITS BOTH IN HIS MOVEMENTS AND IN HIS ‘ERUB. IF THE ERUB WAS EATEN UP ON THE FIRST DAY IT REMAINS EFFECTIVE FOR THE FIRST DAY BUT NOT FOR THE SECOND. SAID R. ELIEZER TO THEM: YOU DO THEN AGREE WITH ME THAT THEY ARE TWO DISTINCT ENTITIES OF HOLINESS. GEMARA. What is [the purport of the expression] FOR ONE DIRECTION? Obviously FOR THE TWO DAYS. And what is [the purport of the expression,] FOR TWO DAYS? Obviously FOR ONE DIRECTION. [Is not then the latter clause] identical with the first one? — It is this that the Rabbis meant to say to R. Eliezer: ‘Do you not agree that no ‘erub may be prepared for one half of a day for a northern direction and for the other half of the same day for a southern direction?’ ‘Indeed [I do]’, he replied. ‘As’, they continued, ‘no ‘erub may be prepared for one half of a day for a southern direction and for the other half of the same day for a northern direction so may no ‘erub be prepared for one of two days in an easterly direction and for the other in a westerly direction’ — And R. Eliezer? — The one day is a single entity of holiness, but the two days are two distinct entitles of holiness. Said R. Eliezer to them: ‘Do you not agree that if a man prepared an ‘erub with his feet for the first day he must also prepare an ‘erub with his feet for the second day, or that if his ‘erub was eaten up on the first day he may not go out [in reliance] on it on the second day?’ ‘Indeed’, they replied. ‘Surely, then’, [he retorted: ‘the two days must be] two entities of holiness’. And the Rabbis? — They were rather uncertain and have, therefore, adopted the more restrictive course in both cases. ‘Do you not agree’, they again said to R. Eliezer, ‘that It is forbidden to prepare an ‘erub for the Sabbath on a festival day for the first time?’ ‘Indeed [I do]’, he replied. ‘Surely, then’, [they retorted: ‘the two days must be] one entity of holiness’. And R.Eliezer? — [The restriction] there is due [to the prohibition] of preparing [for the Sabbath on a festival day]. Our Rabbis taught: If a man prepared an ‘erub with his feet on the first day he must also prepare an ‘erub with his feet on the second day; if his ‘erub was eaten up on the first day he may not go out [in reliance] on it on the second day; so Rabbi. R. Judah said:
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Behold this [man represents a combination of] an ass-driver and a camel-driver. R. Simeon b. Gamaliel and R. Ishmael son of R. Johanan b. Beroka said: If he prepared an ‘erub with his feet on the first day he need not prepare one with his feet for the second day and if his ‘erub was eaten on the first day he may go out [in reliance] on it on the second day. Rab stated: The halachah is in agreement with the four elders who follow the view of R. Eliezer who maintained [that the two days are regarded as] two entities of holiness. And these are the four elders: R. Simeon b. Gamaliel, R. Ishmael son of R. Johanan b. Beroka, R. Eleazar son of R. Simeon and R. Jose b. Judah [reported] anonymously or, as others say, one of these is R. Eleazar while R. Jose b. Judah [reported] anonymously is to be ‘excluded. But were not R. Simeon b. Gamaliel and R. Ishmael son of R. Johanan b. Beroka heard to express the contrary view? — Reverse it. But if so, is not their view identical with that of Rabbi? — Read,’And so also ruled R. Simeon b. Gamaliel etc.’ But why was not Rabbi also enumerated? — Rabbi only learnt the ruling but he himself did not adopt it. [Is it not possible that] the Rabbis also only learned it but did not adopt it? Rab received the statement as a definite tradition. When R. Huna's soul departed to its eternal rest R. Hisda entering [the academy] pointed out a contradiction between two statements of Rab: Could Rab have said: ‘The halachah is in agreement with the four elders who follow the view of R. Eliezer who maintained [that the two days are regarded as] two entities of holiness’, seeing that it was actually stated: ‘If the Sabbath and a festival day [follow one another in close succession]. Rab ruled that [an egg] that was laid on the first of these days is forbidden on the other’? — Rabbah replied: [The restriction] there is due to [the prohibition against] preparing [from one day for the other]; for it was taught: And it shall come to pass on the sixth day that they shall prepare [implies that one may] prepare [on] a weekday for the Sabbath or for a festival but that no preparations may be made [on] a festival or the Sabbath nor nay preparations be made [on] the Sabbath for a festival. Said Abaye to him: [What,] however, [could be your explanation of] what we learned: HOW IS ONE TO ACT? HE ARRANGES FOR THE ERUB] TO BE CARRIED [TO THE REQUIRED SPOT] ON THE FIRST DAY [BY A DEPUTY] WHO, HAVING REMAINED THERE WITH IT UNTIL DUSK, TAKES IT UP AND GOES AWAY. ON THE SECOND [DAY THE ‘ERUB IS AGAIN CARRIED THERE AND] KEPT UNTIL DUSK WHEN [THE DEPUTY] EATS IT AND GOES AWAY? Is he not thereby preparing on a festival day for the Sabbath? — Rabbah replied: Do you imagine that it is at the conclusion of the day that an ‘erub acquires Its validity? It is at the beginning of the day that its validity is acquired, and on the Sabbath one may well make preparations for the Sabbath itself. Now then, why should not people be allowed to prepare an ‘erub with a ‘lagin’? — Because It Is necessary [that an erub should consist of] a meal that is suitable [for consumption] while it is yet day, which is not the case there.’ [What], however, [is your explanation of] what we learned: R. ELIEZER RULED: IF A FESTIVAL DAY IMMEDIATELY PRECEDES OR FOLLOWS THE SABBATH A MAN MAY PREPARE TWO ‘ERUBS?’ Is it not necessary [that the ‘erub should consist of] a meal suitable [for consumption] while it is yet day, which is not the case here? — Do you think that one ‘erub was laid at the termination of two thousand cubits in one direction and [the other was laid] at the termination of two thousand cubits in the opposite direction? No; one ‘erub was laid at the termination of one thousand cubits in one direction and [the other also was similarly laid at] the termination of one thousand cubits in the opposite direction. [What,] however, [could be said in explanation of] that which Rab Judah ruled: If a man prepared an ‘erub for the first day with his feet he must also prepare it for the second day with his feet and if he prepared the ‘erub for the first day with bread he must also prepare it for the second day with bread? Is he not preparing on a festival day for the Sabbath? — The other replied: Do you think that he must go [to the required spot] and pronounce some formula? In fact he only goes there and sits down in silence. In agreement with whose view? Is it in agreement only with that of R. Johanan b. Nuri who holds that objects of hefker acquire the spot on which they rested? — It may be said to be in agreement even with the view of the Rabbis, for they differ from R. Johanan b. Nuri only in respect of a person asleep, who cannot possibly pronounce the formula, but where a person is awake and could, if he wished, pronounce it he is deemed to have pronounced it even though he has not actually done so. Said Rabbah b. R. Hanin to Abaye: If the Master had heard that it was taught: ‘A man shall not walk [on the Sabbath] to the end of his field to ascertain what it required. Similarly
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