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עירובין 29:1
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— That [refers to beet] that was only partially cooked. There are [others] who read: R. Hamnuna ruled: No "erub may be prepared from raw beet, for R. Hisda stated: ‘Raw beet kills a healthy man’. Do we not see, however, that people do eat [such beet] and yet do not die? — There [it is ‘case of beet] that was only partly cooked. R. Hisda stated: A dish of beet is beneficial for the heart and good for the eyes and even more so for the bowels. Abaye added: This applies only [to such beet] that remained on the stove until it was thoroughly cooked. Raba [once] said: ‘I am [to-day] in the condition of Ben Azzai in the markets of Tiberias’. Sand one of the younger Rabbis to him, ‘With what quantity of apples [may an ‘erub be prepared]?’ — ‘Is it permissible’, the other replied: ‘to prepare an erub from apples?’ — ‘Is it not [permitted]? Have we not in fact learnt: All kinds of food may be combined [to make up the prescribed quantity] of half of a half loaf in respect of rendering the body unfit, or [to make up the quantity of] food for two meals required for an ‘erub, or the size of an egg in respect of imparting food defilement?’ — Rut what objection is this? If it be contended: Because it was stated: ‘all kinds of food’ and these’ also are eatable, surely [it could be retorted] did not R. Johanan lay down that no inference may be drawn from general rulings even where an exception was been specified? — [The objection] rather is because it was stated: ‘or [to make up the quantity of] food for two meals required for an ‘erub or the size of an egg in respect of imparting food defilement’, and these also are subject to food defilement. Now with what quantity? — R. Nahman replied: In the case of apples it must be a kab. An objection was raised: R. Simeon b. Eliezer ruled: [The poor man's tithe must be of no less a quantity than] an ‘ukla of spices, a pound of vegetables, ten nuts, five peaches, two pomegranates or one ethrog; and Gursak b. Dari stated in the name of R. Menashia b. Shegobli who had it from Rab that [the same quantities were] also [applicable] to an ‘erub. Why then should not apples also be compared to peaches? — The others are valuable but these are not so valuable. ‘May the Lord’, exclaimed R. Joseph, ‘pardon R. Menashia b. Shegobli [this oversight; for] I made that statement in connection with a Mishnah and he applied it to a Baraitha! For we learned: Any poor man [applying] at the threshing floor [must be given] no less than half a kab of wheat, a kab of barley (R. Meir said: Half a kab of barley), a kab and a half of spelt, a kab of dried figs or a maneh of pressed figs (R. Akiba said: A half), half a log of wine (R. Akiba said: One quarter) or a quarter of oil (R. Akiba said: One eighth); and [in respect of] all other kinds of produce, Abba Saul ruled, [The quantities given must consist] of so much [food] as [would enable the recipient to] sell them and buy with their proceeds food for two meals. And [it was in connection with this Mishnah that] Rab stated that ‘[the same quantities were] also [applicable in the case] of an ‘erub’. On what ground, however, is preference given to the one rather than to the other? If it be suggested: Because in the Baraitha spices were mentioned, and spices are not eatables, [it might be retorted:] Are not wheat and barley mentioned in the Mishnah though they also are not eatables? — [The ground] rather is this: Because [in the Mishnah] ‘half a log of wine was mentioned and Rab has land down that an ‘erub may be prepared with two quarters [of a log] of wine’ it may be concluded that when Rab said: ‘And the same quantities were also applicable to an ‘erub’ he must have been referring to this Mishnah. This is conclusive. The Master said: ‘Or [to make up the quantity of] food for two meals required for an ‘erub’. R. Joseph intended to lay down that [no ‘erub may be prepared] unless there is sufficient food of each kind to provide for a complete meal, but Rabbah said to him: Even [if each kind of food consisted only] of a half, a third or a quarter [of a meal]. [To revert to] the main text: ‘Rab has land down that an ‘erub may be prepared with two quarters [of a log] of wine’. But do we require so much? Was it not in fact taught: R. Simeon b. Eleazar ruled: Wine [for an ‘erub must] suffice for soaking in it the bread, vinegar must suffice to dip in it [the meat], and olives and onions must suffice to provide a relish for the bread for two meals? — There [the reference is] to boiled wine. The Master said: ‘Vinegar must suffice to dip in it [the meat]’. Sand R. Giddal in the name of Rab, [It must] suffice to dip in it the food of two meals of vegetables. Others read: R. Giddal said in the name of Rab, [It must suffice to dip in it a quantity of) vegetables consumed in the course of two meals. The Master said: ‘Olives and onions must suffice to provide a relish for bread for two meals’. Is it, however, permitted to prepare all erub from onions? Was it not in fact taught: R. Simeon b. Eleazar stated: R. Meir once spent the Sabbath a’ Ardaska when a certain man appeared before him and said to him, ‘Master, I have prepared an ‘erub’ from onions [to enable me to walk] to Tibe'in’, and R. Meir ordered him to remain within his four cubits? — This is no difficulty, since one ruling deals with the leaves while the other refers to the bulbs. For it was taught: ‘If a man ate an onion and [was found] dead early [on the following morning] there is no need to ask what was the cause of his death’, and in connection with this Samuel stated: This was taught in respect of the leaves only but against [the eating of] the bulbs there call be no objection; and even regarding the leaves this has been said only
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