Chullin — Daf 55a

שיעורן בכדי סיכת קטן ועד לוג מאי לאו לוג כלמטה לא לוג כלמעלה

ת"ש מלוג עד סאה ברביעית מאי לאו סאה כלמטה לא סאה כלמעלה

ת"ש מסאה ועד סאתים בחצי לוג מאי לאו סאתים כלמטה לא סאתים כלמעלה

והתניא לוג כלמטה סאה כלמטה סאתים כלמטה

התם לחומרא דא"ר אבהו א"ר יוחנן כל שיעורי חכמים להחמיר חוץ מכגריס של כתמים להקל

דיקא נמי דקתני עלה דההיא חמשה כלמעלה עשרה כלמטה:

ניטל הטחול: אמר רב עוירא משמיה דרבא לא שנו אלא ניטל אבל ניקב טרפה

מתיב רבי יוסי בר אבין ואיתימא ר' יוסי בר זבידא חותך מעובר שבמעיה מותר באכילה מן הטחול ומן הכליות אסור באכילה הא בהמה גופא שריא

הוא הדין דאפילו בהמה נמי אסירא איידי דתנא רישא מותר באכילה תנא נמי סיפא אסור באכילה ואיבעית אימא ניקב לחוד ונחתך לחוד:

ניטלו הכליות: אמר רכיש בר פפא משמיה דרב לקתה בכוליא אחת טרפה אמרי במערבא והוא דמטאי לקותא

[can contract uncleanness if they can now hold] enough oil to anoint a limb of a child,1 [provided that, when unbroken, these vessels could hold any amount] up to a log. Presumably what could hold exactly a log would be regarded as holding less!2 — No. Exactly a log would be regarded as holding more.3 Come and hear: If [these vessels, when unbroken, could hold anything] from a log up to a se'ah, [their remnants must now be capable of holding] one quarter log. Presumably what holds exactly a se'ah would be regarded as holding less! — No. Exactly a se'ah would be regarded as holding more.3 Come and hear: If [these vessels, when unbroken, could hold anything] from one se'ah up to two se'ahs, [their remnants must now be capable of holding] one half log. Presumably what holds exactly two se'ahs would be regarded as holding less! — No. Exactly two se'ahs would be regarded as holding more.4 But it has been taught: If the vessel, when unbroken, could hold exactly a log it must be regarded as holding less, or if exactly a se'ah it must be regarded as holding less, or if exactly two se'ahs it must be regarded as holding less.5 — [It must be said that] there [and in all cases] the stricter view is adopted.6 For R. Abbahu reported in the name of R. Johanan: All standards fixed by the Rabbis are to be applied strictly except the size of a bean, the standard for stains,7 which is to be applied leniently. And there is, indeed, a support for this ruling; for the following has been taught as a comment [upon that Mishnah]:8 If it was exactly five handbreadths long it is regarded as more, but if it was exactly ten handbreadths long it is regarded as less. 9 IF THE SPLEEN WAS GONE. R. ‘Awira said in the name of Raba: This was taught only if it was gone, but should it have been pierced it would be trefah. R. Jose b. Abin (others say: R. Jose b. Zabida) raised this objection. We have learnt: Whatsoever is cut off from the embryo within the womb [of the animal and left inside] may be eaten,10 but whatsoever is cut off from the spleen or kidneys [of the animal itself and left inside] may not be eaten. It follows, however, that the animal itself is permitted!11 — No; the law is that the animal itself is also forbidden, but only because the Tanna stated in the first clause that it12 may be eaten did he state in the second clause too that it12 may not be eaten.13 Alternatively, I can say: Pierced is one thing but cut another. 14 IF THE KIDNEYS WERE GONE. Rakish b. Papa said in the name of Rab, If one kidney was diseased it is trefah. In the West it was said: Provided the infection extended the question whether or not this minimum quantity is essential in an unbroken earthenware vessel, v. Tosaf. a.l. and the commentaries on this Mishnah in Kelim II. 2. is inclusive. Log and se'ah are Heb. measures both of liquids and of solids. unbroken, held more than two se'ahs is one whole log. V. Kelim II, 2. context, a matter up to a certain measure is permitted (as in the case of our Mishnah supra 54a), the strict view must be adopted and ‘up to’ will not be inclusive. But, on the other hand, if any matter up to a certain measure is forbidden, or is capable of being rendered unclean, the strict view must again be adopted and ‘up to’ will be inclusive. be the blood of menstruation. If the stain is exactly, or less than, the size of a bean, she would not be unclean, for she may set it down to the blood of a louse; v. Nid. 58b. The reason for this leniency is because the law relating to stains is merely Rabbinic. this Baraitha ‘up to’ is not inclusive but in the second case it is. ruling. permitted, but where it has pierced it is trefah according to R. ‘Awira. This is a difficult distinction to accept, and indeed it is omitted in many MSS. V. Marginal Gloss and notes on this passage in D.S.