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חולין 137:2
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— R. Johanan said: He had it as a tradition deriving from Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi. R. DOSA B. HARKINAS SAYS . . . [WHATEVER THEIR FLEECES WEIGH]. What is meant by ‘WHATEVER’? — Rab said, [At least] a maneh and a half, provided each supplies [no less than] a fifth [of this quantity]. Samuel said, [At least] sixty [sela's], and he gives thereof one sela’ to the priest. Rabbah b. Bar Hana said in the name of R. Johanan, [At least] six [sela's], and he gives five to the priest and retains one for himself. Ulla said in the name of R. Eleazar: Our Mishnah expressly says: WHATEVER. We have learnt: AND HOW MUCH SHOULD ONE GIVE HIM? THE WEIGHT OF FIVE SELA'S IN JUDAH, WHICH IS EQUAL. TO TEN SELA'S IN GALILEE. Now this is in order according to the views of Rab and R. Johanan, but it surely presents a difficulty, does it not, to Samuel and R. ‘Eleazar? — Then, as you would have it, it also presents a difficulty to Rab? For did not Rab and Samuel both rule that the proper measure for the first of the fleece is one sixtieth part? But the fact is as has already been taught in connection with this [Mishnah] that Rab and Samuel both said; it speaks of the case of an Israelite who has many fleeces and who wishes to distribute them among a number of priests, and we tell him that he must not give less than the weight of five sela's to each. [To turn to] the main text. ‘Rab and Samuel both ruled: The proper measure for the first of the fleece is one sixtieth part, for terumah one sixtieth part, and for the "corner" one sixtieth part’. ‘For terumah one sixtieth part’. But we have learnt: The proper measure for terumah, if a man is liberal, is one fortieth part? — According to the law of the Torah the measure is one sixtieth part, but by Rabbinic enactment it is one fortieth part. But has not Samuel stated that one grain of wheat frees the stack? — The law of the Torah is as Samuel stated it; but the Rabbinic enactment is that in respect of that which is subject [to terumah] by the Torah the measure is one fortieth part, and in respect of that which is subject [to terumah] only by the Rabbis the measure is one sixtieth part. ‘For the "corner" one sixtieth part’. But we have learnt: These are the things which have no fixed measure: the corner [of the field], the firstfruits, and the appearance-offering! — By law of the Torah there is no fixed measure, but by Rabbinic enactment it is fixed as one sixtieth part. Then what does he teach us? We have learnt it: The corner should not be less than one sixtieth part, even though they have said that no fixed measure is prescribed for the corner! — That gives the rule for the Land [of Israel], here [Rab and Samuel] give the rule for outside the Land [of Israel]. When Isi b. Hini went up [to Palestine], R. Johanan found him teaching his son [our Mishnah and using the term] rehelim. He [R. Johanan] said to him, ‘Use the term reheloth’. The other retorted, ‘But it is written: Two hundred rehelim’. He replied: ‘The Torah uses its own language and the Sages their own’. He [R. Johanan] then enquired, ‘Who is the head of the Academy in Babylon’? ‘Abba Arika’, he replied. ‘And you simply call him Abba Arika’! said [R. Johanan]. ‘I remember when I was sitting before Rabbi, seventeen rows behind Rab, seeing sparks of fire leaping from the mouth of Rabbi into the mouth of Rab and from the mouth of Rab into the mouth of Rabbi, and I could not understand what they were saying; and you simply call him Abba Arika!’ Then the other asked, ‘What is the minimum quantity subject to the law of the first of the fleece’? — ‘Sixty [sela's]’, he replied. ‘But’, said the other, ‘we have learnt: WHATEVER [THEIR FLEECES WEIGH]!’ ‘Then what difference is there between me and you’? he retorted. When R. Dimi came [from Palestine] he reported: With regard to the first of the fleece, Rab said: Sixty; R. Johanan said in the name of R. Jannai: Six. Thereupon Abaye said to R. Dimi: One opinion is quite in order, but the other presents to us a difficulty. There is indeed no contradiction between the one opinion of R. Johanan and the other, for one is his own opinions the other that of his master; but surely there is a contradiction between this opinion of Rab and the other, for Rab has said: At least a maneh and a half! — There is also no contradiction between this opinion of Rab and the other, for by ‘a maneh’ he meant [a maneh] of forty sela's, so that [a maneh and a half] is equal to
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