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בכורות 60:1
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he cannot say: ‘I will select ten [meagre ones], take one from them [as tithe] and the rest will be exempt’. But he must bring them [all] into the shed, bring out ten, take one from them [as tithe], and the rest combine with those of a later tithing period. But has it not been taught: If he had nineteen lambs he cannot say: ‘I will select ten, take one from them [as tithe] and the rest will be exempt’. But he must bring them [all] into the shed, bring out ten, take one from them [as tithe] and the rest are exempt? — R. Huna b. Sehorah explained this before Rab on [the Sabbath preceding] a Festival: We are dealing here with a shed which has two doors. Nine lambs passed through one door and nine through the other, thus [the remaining lamb] is fit [to combine either with those] here or there. But why not explain [the Baraitha] as dealing with a case where he counted nine and when he reached [the number] ten, he called it One, [as] from the beginning? — He holds that the tenth is holy on its own account. And why not explain [the Baraitha] as dealing with a case where e.g., he counted [the nineteen lambs] in pairs? — R. Huna holds: The tenth is rendered holy by the actual number of the animals. R. Nahman b. Isaac said: The mother of R. Huna b. Sehorah was privileged to have a son who explained [Raba's ruling] on [the Sabbath previous to] a Festival in line with Raba's teaching. MISHNAH. IF TWO [LAMBS] CAME FORTH AT THE SAME TIME, HE COUNTS THEM IN PAIRS. IF HE COUNTED [THE TWO] AS ONE, THE NINTH AND THE TENTH ARE SPOILT. [IF THE NINTH AND THE TENTH CAME OUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE NINTH AND THE TENTH ARE SPOILT.] IF HE CALLED THE NINTH THE TENTH, THE TENTH THE NINTH AND THE ELEVENTH THE TENTH, THE THREE ARE HOLY. THE NINTH IS EATEN WHILE BLEMISHED, THE TENTH IS THE TITHE AND THE ELEVENTH IS SACRIFICED AS A PEACE-OFFERING, AND IT CAN EFFECT A SUBSTITUTE. THESE ARE THE WORDS OF R. MEIR. SAID R. JUDAH: CAN THAT ONE SUBSTITUTE EFFECT ANOTHER SUBSTITUTE? THEY SAID IN THE NAME OF R. MEIR: IF IT WERE A SUBSTITUTE, IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SACRIFICED. IF HE CALLED THE NINTH THE TENTH, THE TENTH THE TENTH AND THE ELEVENTH THE TENTH, THE ELEVENTH IS NOT CONSECRATED. THE FOLLOWING IS THE RULE: WHEREVER THE NAME OF THE TENTH [ANIMAL] HAS NOT BEEN ELIMINATED THEREFROM, THE ELEVENTH IS NOT CONSECRATED. GEMARA. Said R. Johanan: If he counted [the lambs] in pairs or in hundreds; the tenth in his counting becomes holy. In what counting? — R. Mari says: The holiness of the tenth is determined by his counting, whereas R. Kahana says: The holiness of the tenth is determined by the actual number of animals. We have learnt: IF TWO CAME OUT AT THE SAME TIME, HE COUNTS THEM IN PAIRS. IF HE COUNTED [THE TWO] AS ONE, THE NINTH AND THE TENTH ARE SPOILT. Now there is no difficulty according to him who holds: The holiness of the tenth is determined by his counting; for this reason the ninth and the tenth are spoilt, and he calls the tenth the ninth and the eleventh the tenth. But according to him who holds that the holiness of the tenth is determined by the actual number of the animals, it is as if he called the [certain] ninth the ninth and the [certain] tenth the tenth! R. Johanan can reply thus: I only say [that the holiness of the tenth is determined by the counting of the animals] where he planned to bring them out in pairs, but where [as in the Mishnah] they came out [of the shed] of themselves, it is not so. Come and hear: If he counted them backwards, the tenth of the counting is holy. Now I grant that according to him who holds that the holiness of the tenth is determined by the actual number of the animals, there would be no difficulty. But according to him who holds that the holiness of the tenth is determined by his counting, then he calls the tenth the first! — Said Raba: The reason is because it so happens that in the Persian system of counting that they call ten One. 35
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