Parallel Talmud
Beitzah — Daf 6a
Babylonian Talmud (Gemara) · Soncino English Talmud
אמר רבא מת ביום טוב ראשון יתעסקו בו עממים מת ביו"ט שני יתעסקו בו ישראל ואפילו בשני ימים טובים של ר"ה מה שאין כן בביצה
נהרדעי אמרי אף בביצה דמה דעתיך דלמא מעברי ליה לאלול הא אמר רב חיננא בר כהנא אמר רב מימות עזרא ואילך לא מצינו אלול מעובר
אמר מר זוטרא לא אמרן אלא דאשתהי אבל לא אשתהי משהינן ליה
רב אשי אמר אע"ג דלא אשתהי נמי לא משהינן ליה מ"ט יום טוב שני לגבי מת כחול שויוה רבנן אפילו למיגז ליה גלימא ולמיגז ליה אסא
אמר רבינא והאידנא דאיכא חברי חיישינן
רבינא הוה יתיב קמיה דרב (אסי) בשני ימים טובים של ראש השנה חזייה דהוה עציב אמר ליה אמאי עציב מר א"ל דלא אותיבי עירובי תבשילין
אמר ליה ולותיב מר האידנא מי לא אמר רבא מניח אדם עירובי תבשילין מיו"ט לחבירו ומתנה
אמר ליה אימר דאמר רבא בשני ימים טובים של גליות בשני ימים טובים של ראש השנה מי אמר
והא אמרי נהרדעי אף ביצה מותרת אמר ליה רב מרדכי בפירוש אמר לי מר דלא סבר להא דנהרדעי
אתמר אפרוח שנולד ביום טוב רב אמר אסור ושמואל ואיתימא ר' יוחנן אמר מותר רב אמר אסור מוקצה הוא ושמואל ואיתימא ר' יוחנן אמר מותר הואיל ומתיר עצמו בשחיטה
אמרי ליה רב כהנא ורב אסי לרב וכי מה בין זה לעגל שנולד ביום טוב אמר להו הואיל ומוכן אגב אמו בשחיטה
ומה בין זה לעגל שנולד מן הטרפה שתיק רב
אמר רבה ואיתימא רב יוסף מ"ט שתיק רב לימא להו הואיל ומוכן אגב אמו לכלבים
אמר ליה אביי
Raba said: On the first day of a Festival, [only] Gentiles may busy themselves with a corpse,1 [but] on the second day, Israelites may busy themselves with a corpse, and2 even on the two Festival-days of the New Year, which however is not the case with respect to an egg.3 The Nehardeans4 say: The same holds good even with respect to an egg; for what is in your mind: Perhaps [the month of] Ellul will be intercalated?5 Surely R. Hinena b. Kahana said in the name of Rab: From the days of Ezra6 and onward we do not find Ellul ever intercalated.7 Mar Zutra said: This8 was said only when [the corpse] had already been lying for some time,9 but if it had not lain for a long time, we let it remain.10 R. Ashi says: Even if it had not lain for a [good] long time we do not let it remain [unburied]. What is the reason? With regard to a dead body the Rabbis have made the second day of a Festival as a weekday even with respect to cutting for it a shroud and cutting for it a [branch of] myrtle.11 Rabina said: But nowadays when there are Guebers12 we apprehend.13 Rabina was once sitting in the presence of R. Ashi on [one of] the two Festival-days of the New Year,14 [and] noticing that he was troubled, he said to him: Why is the Master troubled? He [R. Ashi] replied: I have not set an ‘erub tabshilin.15 Said he to him: Let the Master prepare an ‘erub tabshilin now. For did not Raba say: A man may set an ‘erub tabshilin on the first day of a Festival for the second and stipulate?16 — He replied: Granted that Raba [indeed] said so with respect to the two Feast-days of the Diaspora.17 But did he then say this also with respect to the two days of the New Year's Festival?18 But the Nehardeans maintain that even an egg is permitted!19 — R. Mordecai observed to him [to Rabina]: The Master20 distinctly told me that he does not accept this [teaching] of the Nehardeans. It was stated: If a chicken was hatched out on a Festival, Rab says: It is forbidden,21 but Samuel — some say, R. Johanan — maintains: It is permitted. Rab says it is forbidden [because] it is mukzeh;22 but Samuel — some say, R. Johanan — maintains it is permitted, since it makes itself permitted through shechitah.23 R. Kahana and R. Assi said to Rab: What difference is there between this and a calf born on a Festival?24 — He replied to them: [The case of the calf is different] since it was [regarded as] mukan25 by virtue of its mother.26 And what difference is there between this and a calf born [on a Festival] from a Trefa?27 Rab remained silent. Said Rabbah — some say [it was] R. Joseph — Why was Rab silent? He should have replied to them: [This calf is permitted] since it is mukan for dogs through its [trefa] mother.28 — Abaye replied to him: second day. the Sassanid rule marked by the persecution of the Jews. V. J.E. p. 648, c. 1. The Jews had to render to the Guebers compulsory service from which they were exempt on a Festival. working day and compel them to work. Sabbath. The method is to prepare a dish on the Thursday for the Sabbath which enables all the cooking done on the Friday to be regarded as a continuation of the cooking begun on the Thursday. permitted; and if the second day is the proper feast-day, then preparation of the ‘erub is permissible on the first day, which is not a Festival but a weekday. Surely not! holy. that the chicken can be eaten through ritual slaughter. And since the hatching out of the chicken (on the Festival) enables it to be eaten through slaughtering, it also frees it from mukzeh; i.e., since it gains permission for itself to be eaten through ritual slaughter, it also gains permission for itself to be free from mukzeh. is valid for provision even before its birth. must itself be ritually slaughtered before it can be permitted; and yet we do not find anyone prohibiting the eating of a calf born of a trefa on a Festival. within it. The cow and the calf would thus become mukan for dogs and therefore the law of mukzeh should not apply to the calf. The same, however, cannot be said of the chicken in the egg.