Zevachim

And even R. Jose son of R. Judah said only that wooden ones [were permitted], but not earthen ones.1 R. Isaac the son of R. Judah used to attend Rami b. Hama[‘s lectures]. He left him and attended R. Shesheth[‘s lectures]. One day he [Rami b. Hama] met him, and observed: The noble2 has taken us by the hand, and his scent has come into the hand!3 Because you have gone to R. Shesheth, you are like R. Shesheth!4 That was not the reason,he replied. Whenever I asked a question of you, you answered me from reason, [and] if I found a teaching5 [to the contrary], it refuted.your answer. [But] when I ask a question of R. Shesheth, he answers it from a teaching, so that even if I find a teaching which refutes him, it is one teaching against another.6 Said he to him: Ask me a question, and I will answer you in accordance with a teaching.7 [Thereupon] he asked him: If one boiled [the sacrifice] in part of a vessel,8 does it require scouring and rinsing, or does it not require [them]?9 — It does not require them, he replied, by analogy with [the] spurting [of blood].10 But it was not taught so, he protested?11 — It is logical that it is like a garment, he replied; just as a garment needs washing only in the place of the blood,12 so a vessel requires scouring and rinsing only in the place of boiling. How can you compare them, he objected: blood does not spread,13 whereas boiling spreads.14 Moreover It was taught: [The] spurting [of blood] is more stringent than scouring and rinsing, and scouring and rinsing are more stringent than spurting. Spurting is more stringent, since [the law of] spurting operates in respect to outer sin-offerings and inner sin-offerings, and it operated before sprinkling,15 which is not so in the case of scouring and rinsing.16 Scouring and rinsing are more stringent, in that scouring and rinsing are required for most sacred sacrifices and for lesser sacrifices; [again] if one boiled [the flesh] in part of a vessel, the whole vessel requires scouring and rinsing, which is not so in the case of spurting! — If it was taught, it was taught,17 he replied. And what is the reason? Scripture says, And if it be boiled in a brazen vessel’, which means, even in part of a vessel. WHETHER MOST SACRED SACRIFICES etc. Our Rabbis taught: [Scripture saith] A sin-offering:18 I know it only of a sin-offering; how do I know it of all sacrifices? Because it says, it is most holy.19 You might think that I include terumah; therefore it says, [Every male among the priests may eat] thereof, which excludes terumah20 these are the words of R. Judah. R. Simeon said: Most holy sacrifices necessitate scouring and rinsing, [but] lesser sacrifices do not necessitate scouring and rinsing, because it is written, ‘It is most holy’: most holy sacrifices do [necessitate it], but lesser sacrifices do not. What is R. Judah's reason? — Since ‘thereof’ is necessary to exclude terumah, it follows that lesser sacrifices necessitate scouring and rinsing.21 And R. Simeon?22 — He can answer you: ‘Thereof’ Intimates what we said elsewhere.23 Now, does not terumah necessitate scouring and rinsing? Surely it was taught: You may not boil milk in a pot in which meat was boiled, and if one did, [the milk is forbidden] if it [the meat] could communicate its flavour [to it]24 If one boiled terumah in it, one must not boil hullin in it; and if one did, [the hullin is forbidden] if it [the terumah] could communicate flavour [to it]!25 — Said Abaye: This holds good26 only in respect of what a master said, [viz.]: If one boiled [flesh] in part of a vessel, the whole vessel must be scoured and rinsed; but [in the case of] terumah only the part where it was boiled needs [scouring and rinsing]. Raba said: It holds good only in respect of what a master said: ‘[It shall be scoured and rinsed] in water’, but not in wine; ‘in water’, but not in a mixture:27 this, however,28 may be [scoured and rinsed] even in wine, even in a mixture. Rabbah b. ‘Ulla said: It holds good only in respect of what a master said: The scouring and rinsing must be in cold water; 29 this however is done in hot water.30 That is well on the view that scouring and rinsing must be done in cold [water]; but on the view that the scouring is in hot water and the rinsing in cold,31 what can be said?32 , — There is the additional rinsing.33 MISHNAH. R. TARFON SAID: IF ONE BOILED [FLESH IN A POT] AT THE BEGINNING OF A FESTIVAL, HE CAN BOIL THEREIN DURING THE WHOLE FESTIVAL;34 BUT THE SAGES MAINTAIN: UNTIL THE TIME OF EATING, SCOURING AND RINSING.35 SCOURING [MERIKAH] IS AS THE SCOURING OF A GOBLET;36 AND RINSING IS AS THE RINSING OF A GOBLET. SCOURING AND RINSING ARE DONE IN COLD [WATER].37 themselves. of the vessel was not over the fire. to blood that spurts before it is sprinkled. male among the priests may eat thereof (Lev. VI, 22). For the same reason they are necessary only when the flesh is boiled after the sprinkling, for if boiled before the blood is sprinkled, it may not be eaten. included in the law of scouring and rinsing. scouring and rinsing, and the Scriptural limitation would be superfluous. matter (this is called hag'alah), as otherwise whatever is subsequently boiled therein is forbidden to lay Israelites. It is assumed that hag'alah is the same as scouring and rinsing. in cold water. within and without; v. Ber. 51a.