Soncino English Talmud
Zevachim
Daf 95b
And should you say that one mixes it in with the seven substances1 and applies them all at once; surely we learnt: If they were not applied in their order,2 or if they were all applied simultaneously, it is of no avail? And should you say that he mixes it up in one of the substances; but surely we learnt [that] he must rub the stain three times with each [substance]? — Rather, he mixes it up in tasteless saliva, for Resh Lakish said: There must be tasteless saliva with each one. MISHNAH. WHETHER ONE BOILED THEREIN OR POURED BOILING [FLESH ETC.] INTO IT, WHETHER MOST SACRED SACRIFICES OR LESSER SACRIFICES, [THE POT] REQUIRES SCOURING AND RINSING. R. SIMEON SAID: LESSER SACRIFICES DO NOT NECESSITATE SCOURING AND RINSING. GEMARA. Our Rabbis taught: [But the earthen vessel] which it is boiled in it.3 I know it only when one boiled [the flesh] therein; how do I know it when one poured boiling [flesh] therein? Because it says, which [it is boiled] in it. [shall be broken].4 Rami b. Hama asked: What if one suspended [the flesh] in the air-space of an [earthen] oven?5 Is the Divine Law particular about boiling and absorbing; or perhaps, [it is particular] about boiling [even] without absorbing?6 — Said Raba, Come and hear: WHETHER ONE BOILED THEREIN OR POURED BOILING [FLESH] INTO IT!7 — We do not ask about absorbing without boiling;8 we ask about boiling without absorbing: what is the law?-Come and hear, for R. Nahman said in Rabbah b. Abbuha's name: The Temple oven was of metal.9 Now, if you think that [only] boiling and absorbing [necessitates] breaking, let it be an earthen one?10 — Since there were the remainders of meal-offerings, which were baked in the oven, so that there is boiling and absorbing,11 we must make it of metal. A certain oven was greased with fat. [Thereupon] Raba b. Ahilai forbade for all time12 the bread [baked therein] to be eaten even with salt, lest one come to eat it with kutah.13 An objection is raised: One must not knead dough with milk, and if he does knead it, the whole loaf is forbidden, because it leads to sin.14 Similarly, one must not grease an oven with fat, and if he does grease it, all the bread [baked therein] is forbidden until the oven is refired. This is a refutation of Raba b. Ahilai. [It is indeed] a refutation. Rabina said to R. Ashi: Now since Raba b. Ahilai was refuted, why did Rab say: pots must be broken on Passover?15 Rab maintained that there16 a metal one is meant. Alternatively, it may be an earthen oven: this [the oven] is fired from the inside;17 while the other [the pot] is fired on the outside. Then let us burn it [the pot] from within? — He would spare it, lest it break [burst].18 Therefore a tiled pan,19 since it is burnt from without,20 is forbidden.21 noticeable, and can be taken into the Temple. sin-offering is absorbed in it, even if it had not actually been boiled in it. If boiling flesh is placed in the vessel, the vessel must absorb some of it. boiled and which thereby absorbs some of it must be broken; or perhaps it must be broken even when it does not absorb? broken or scoured and rinsed. Presumably boiling without absorbing is the same. allowed for the consumption of this flesh, the absorbed matter becomes nothar (v. Glos.), which is forbidden, and it will impart its flavour to any other flesh that is subsequently boiled in it, unless it is scoured and rinsed. (Scouring and rinsing are not efficacious for earthen vessels, for which reason they must be broken.) top. and must not be eaten with anything containing milk or a milk product. of fat. Then let the pots too be subjected to fire, which would likewise expel the absorbed leaven (it was on account of the absorbed leaven that Rab forbade their use on Passover).