Soncino English Talmud
Sukkah
Daf 22a
MISHNAH. A DISARRANGED1 SUKKAH AND ONE WHOSE SHADE IS MORE THAN ITS SUN2 IS VALID. IF [THE COVERING] IS CLOSE KNIT LIKE THAT OF A HOUSE, IT IS VALID, EVEN THOUGH THE STARS CANNOT BE SEEN THROUGH IT. GEMARA. What is meant by medubleleth?3 — Rab replied, It means a beggarly Sukkah;4 and Samuel says, One whose reeds are not all on the same level.5 Rab taught the [first part of the Mishnah as] one [statement], while Samuel taught it as two. Rab taught it as one: A Sukkah which is medubleleth, (what is medubleleth? Beggarly) whose shade is more than its sun, is valid; while Samuel taught it as two: What is medubleleth? Disarranged; and [the Mishnah] teaches two [laws,] that a disarranged Sukkah6 is valid and that a Sukkah whose shade is more than its sun is valid. Abaye stated, This7 applies only where there are not three handbreadths of distance between one reed and another, but if there are three handbreadths between one and another, it8 is invalid. Raba says, Even if there are three handbreadths between one and another we also do not say [that it8 is invalid] unless the upper reed9 is not a handbreadth wide but if the upper reed is a handbreadth wide, it8 is valid,10 since we apply to it the law of ‘Beat and throw it down’.11 Raba said, Whence do I say that if the upper reed is a handbreadth wide we apply to it the law of ‘Beat and throw it down’, and if it is not so wide we do not apply it? From what we have learnt: If the beams of [the roof of] a house and of its upper chamber have no plaster-work,12 and they13 lie exactly one above the other, and there is uncleanliness under one of them,14 only the space beneath this one is unclean; if between a lower and an upper [beam],15 the space between them is unclean; if upon an upper beam, what is above it as far as the sky is unclean. If the upper beams were opposite the gaps between the lower beams, and uncleanliness lay beneath one of the beams, the space beneath them all is unclean;16 if it lay above one of the beams, what is above them as far as the sky is unclean.17 And on this it was taught, When do these18 apply? When the beams are each a handbreadth [wide]19 and there is [a gap] of a handbreadth between them,20 but if there is not [a gap] of a handbreadth between them,21 if there is uncleanliness under one of them,22 whatever is under that beam23 is unclean24 while the space between them25 and above them is clean.26 Thus it clearly follows that if there is a handbreadth27 we apply the law of ‘Beat and throw it down’, but if there is not a handbreadth27 we do not apply this law. This is conclusive. R. Kahana was sitting at his studies and enunciated this statement.28 Said R. Ashi to R. Kahana, Do we then not apply the law of ‘Beat and throw down’ where an object is not a handbreadth wide? Has it not in fact been taught: If a beam was protruding from one wall, but was not touching the opposite wall, and similarly if two beams, one protruding from one wall and one from the other, were not touching each other, and [the space between them29 is] less than three [handbreadths]30 it is unnecessary to supply another beam, but if it was three [handbreadths] it is necessary to supply another beam. R. Simeon b. Gamaliel ruled, wide. nevertheless valid because the number of reeds is sufficient, had they been laid on the same level, to provide more shade than sun. the others is regarded as though it were lying on the same level as the lower ones. The necessity of a handbreadth of width is explained forthwith. and together make up one continuous roof. under it and to form an interposition between an uncleanness under it and the space above it. part of the roof of the lower room to all extent of not less than one handbreadth.