Soncino English Talmud
Pesachim
Daf 58b
If we do not fear, let us sacrifice it at six and a half [hours]?1 — He holds that the [burning of the frankincense in the] censers takes precedence over the additional sacrifices: [hence] he sacrificed the additional sacrifices at six hours, [performed the burning in] the censers at seven, and sacrificed the tamid at seven and a half. To this Rabbah b. ‘Ulla ‘demurred: Does he then teach, Just as its order on weekdays [in general], so is its order on the Sabbath which is the eve of Passover: these are the words of R. Ishmael? [Surely] he teaches, ‘so is its order on the Sabbath,’ without qualification! Rather, said Rabbah b. ‘Ulla, this is what he means: Just as its order on a weekday in general, so is its order on the Sabbath in general:2 these are the words of R. Ishmael. R. Akiba said: Just as its order on the eve of Passover in general, so is its order on the Sabbath in general:3 [hence] our Mishnah which teaches, WHETHER ON WEEKDAYS OR ON THE SABBATH agrees with all.4 Wherein do they differ? — They differ as to [whether there is] a preventive measure on account of vows and freewill-offerings. R. Ishmael holds: We enact a preventive measure for the Sabbath on account of weekdays;5 while R. Akiba holds: We do not enact a preventive measure. If we do not enact a preventive measure, let us sacrifice it at six and a half? 6 — He holds the Sabbath. Since many are to be offered, we must start as early as possible. that the additional sacrifices take precedence over [the burning of the frankincense in] the censers: [hence] the additional sacrifices are [offered] at six hours, the [burning in the] censers at seven, and he sacrifices the tamid at seven and a half [hours]. An objection is raised: The tamid, during the whole year it is offered according to its law, [viz..] it is slaughtered at eight and a half [hours] and offered at nine and a half hours. But on the eve of Passover it is slaughtered at seven and a half and offered at eight and a half; if it [the eve of Passover] fell on the Sabbath, it is as though it fell on a Monday.7 R. Akiba said: As its order is on the eve of Passover. As for Abaye, it is well;8 but according to Raba it is a difficulty?9 — Raba can answer you: Do not say, It is the same as when it falls on a Monday. but say, it is the same as a Monday in general.10 An objection is raised: If it falls on the Sabbath, it is as its order during the whole year: these are the words of R. Ishmael.11 R. Akiba said: It is as its order on the eve of Passover in general.12 Now as for Raba, it is well;13 but according to Abaye it is difficult? — Abaye answers you: Do not say, ‘It is as its order during the whole year,’ but say, It is as its order in all [other] years:14 these are the words of R. Ishmael. R. Akiba said: It is as the order when the eve of Passover falls on the eve of the Sabbath.15 Our Rabbis taught: How do we know that there must not be anything before the morning tamid?16 Because it is said, and he shall lay the burnt-offering in order upon it.17 What is the exegesis?18 — Said Raba: The burnt-offering implies the first burnt-offering.19 And how do we know that nothing may be offered after the evening tamid? Because it is stated, and he shall burn upon it the fat of the peace-offerings.20 What is the exegesis?21 Said Abaye: After it22 [sc. the morning tamid] [you may sacrifice] peace-offerings, but not after its companion [sc. the evening tamid] [may you sacrifice] peace-offerings. To this Raba demurred: Say [then], it is only peace-offerings that we may not present,23 yet we may present burnt-offerings? Rather, said Raba: Ha-shelamim implies, upon it complete all the sacrifices.24 Our Rabbis taught: The [evening] tamid is [sacrificed] before the Passover offering,the Passover offering is [sacrificed] before the [burning of the evening] incense, the incense before [the kindling of] the lights; on the Sabbath. offered. same hour during the week too, leaving no time for voluntary offerings, which are disqualified if brought after the afternoon tamid. course, for the Sabbath. — I.e.,it is the same as when it falls during the week, Monday being mentioned as an example (Rashi and Tosaf.). mean, Just as its order on the eve of Passover which falls on the eve of the Sabbath. concludes, it is the same as when it fails on a Monday, i.e., a weekday in general, it is obvious that he does not refer to a weekday in general in the first half of his statement. fear for the overheating of the flesh. seven and a half hours, so likewise when it falls on the Sabbath. upon it. Tosaf.: no voluntary offering may be sacrificed before the morning tamid. Tosaf. accepts Rashi's interpretation as an alternative. after the wood pile is kindled, the tamid is the first thing to be burnt. Num. XXVIII, which is the daily morning tamid, and this verse teaches that it must be the first thing to ascend the altar every day. and nothing else may take precedence over it.