Pesachim

out of each oblation,1 ‘one’ [intimating] that he should not take a broken-off piece, whereas here it is as broken off:2 therefore he informs us [that it is not so]. An objection is raised: The me'isah,3 Beth Shammai exempt it [from hallah], while Beth Hillel hold it liable [thereto]. The halitah,4 Beth Shammai hold it liable [to hallah], while Beth Hillel exempt [it]. Which is ‘me'isah’ and which is ‘halitah’? ‘Me'isah’ is flour [poured] over boiling water; ‘halitah’ is boiling water [poured] over flour. R. Ishmael b. R. Jose ruled in his father's name [that] both are exempt — others state, that both are liable. But the Sages maintained: Both the one and the other, if prepared in an ilpes, each is exempt; in an oven, each is liable. Now according to the first Tanna, wherein does me'isah differ from halitah?5 — Said Rab Judah in Samuel's name, and thus did R. Johanan — others state, R. Joshua b. Levi-say: Just as there is a controversy in respect of the one so is there a controversy in respect of the other, and they [the two clauses] are contradictory, he who learnt the one not having learnt the other.6 Now it is at all events taught, ‘But the Sages maintain: Both the one and the other, if prepared in an ilpes, each is exempt; in an oven, each is liable’, which is a refutation of R. Johanan? — R. Johanan can answer you, It is dependent on Tannaim. For it was taught: You might think that me'isah and halitah are liable to hallah, therefore ‘bread’ is stated. R. Judah said: Nought is bread save that which is baked in an oven. Now R. Judah is identical with the first Tanna? Hence Surely they differ over that which is prepared in an ilpes: the first Tanna holds, That which is prepared in an ilpes is liable; while R. Judah holds, That which is prepared in an oven is exempt! — No: All (agree) that what is prepared in an ilpes is exempt, but they differ here, e.g., where he rebaked it in an oven,7 the first Tanna holding [that] since he rebaked it in an oven, it is called ‘bread’; while R. Judah holds, Nought is bread save that which is baked in an oven from the very beginning, and since this was not baked in an oven from the very beginning, we do not call it ‘bread’. Raba said, What is R. Judah's reason? — Because it is written, ten women shall bake your bread in one oven:8 bread which is baked in one oven is called bread, but that which is not baked in one oven is not called bread.9 Rabbah and R. Joseph were sitting behind R. Zera, and R. Zera was sitting in front of ‘Ulla. Said Rabbah to R Zera, Ask ‘Ulla: What if he placed [the dough] within,10 and boiled it up11 from without?12 What shall I ask him, he replied, for if I ask him he will say to me, That then is the [very] preparation of an ilpes!13 — R. Joseph [then] said to R. Zera, Ask ‘Ulla: What if he placed [the dough] inside and the flame is opposite it?14 What shall I ask him, he replied. for if I ask him he will reply. Most poor people do this.15 R Assi said: Dough of second tithe, according to R. Meir,16 is exempt from hallah; according to the Rabbis,17 it is liable to hallah. explained in the text. that Beth Shammai are more lenient in both. oven such dough as is generally prepared in an ilpes: does this render it bread or not? by permitting him to eat it himself.