Soncino English Talmud
Niddah
Daf 38a
We have learnt: HOW LONG MAY PROTRACTED LABOUR CONTINUE? R. MEIR RULED: EVEN FORTY OR FIFTY DAYS. Now this might quite possibly happen according to Rab on R. Adda b. Ahabah's interpretation, but according to Levi does not this present a difficulty? — Levi can answer you: Was it stated that she was clean throughout all these days? [No; if the birth occurs] in the days of menstruation she is regarded as a menstruant and only when it occurs in the days of her zibah is she clean. Another reading. R. Levi ruled: [The birth of] a child is a cause of cleanness in those days only in which a woman may normally become a major zabah. What is the reason? It is written in Scripture, Her blood many days. Abba Saul in the name of Rab ruled: Even in the days in which she may normally become a minor zabah. What is the reason? Days and All the days are written in the context. We have learnt: HOW LONG MAY PROTRACTED LABOUR CONTINUE? R. MEIR RULED: EVEN FORTY OR FIFTY DAYS. Does not this present a difficulty against both of them? — Was it stated that she was clean throughout all of them? [No;] if she was in labour during the days of her menstruation she is regarded a menstruant and only where this occurred during the days of her zibah is she clean. It was taught: R. Meir used to say. A woman may sometimes bleed for a hundred and fifty days without becoming a major zabah. How? The two days preceding the period of her menstruation, the seven days of menstruation, two days after menstruation, fifty days which childbirth causes to be clean, eighty days prescribed for a female birth, seven days of menstruation and the two days after the menstruation. If so, they said to him, might not a woman bleed all the days of her life and no major zibah would occur in them? — He replied: 'What is it that you have in mind? Is it the possibility of frequent abortions? The law of protracted labour does not apply to abortions'. Our Rabbis taught: A woman may sometimes observe a discharge on a hundred days and yet no major zibah would result from it. How? The two days prior to the time of menstruation, the seven days of menstruation, two days after menstruation, eighty days following the birth of a female child, seven days of menstruation and the two days after menstruation. What new law does this teach us? — That the law differs from him who ruled that it was impossible for the uterus to open without some bleeding, [since thereby] we were informed that it is possible for the uterus to open without previous bleeding. R. JUDAH RULED: … SUFFICES FOR HER etc. It was taught: R. Judah citing R. Tarfon ruled, Her [ninth] month suffices for her and in this there is one aspect of a relaxation of the law and one of restriction. How? If she was in labour for two days at the end of the eighth month and for one day at the beginning of the ninth month, even though she gave birth to the child at the beginning of the ninth month, she is regarded as having born it in zibah; but if she was in labour for one day at the end of the eighth month and for two days at the beginning of the ninth, even though she bore the child at the end of the ninth month, she is not regarded as having given birth in zibah. Said R. Adda b. Ahabah: From this it may be inferred that R. Judah holds that it is the shofar that is the cause. But could this be right, seeing that Samuel stated: A woman can conceive and bear only on the two hundred and seventy-first day or on the two hundred and seventy-second day or on the two hundred and seventy-third day? He follows the view of the pious men of old; for it was taught: The pious men of old performed their marital duty on a Wednesday only, in order that their wives should not be led to