Soncino English Talmud
Nazir
Daf 51b
R. Papa propounded: What about excrement? Seeing that one cannot exist without food, is it part of one's life, or perhaps this too comes from elsewhere? R. Aha son of R. Ika propounded: What about his skin? R. Huna b. Manoah propounded: What about his phlegm and his mucus? R. Samuel b. Aha said to R. Papa: If now you assume that all these mentioned act as gilgelin, how can there be corpse-mould which defiles? — If he was given to drink water from [the Well of] the Palm Trees, depilated with nasha, and was steeped in the [hot] springs of Tiberias. Abaye said: We hold a tradition that a corpse that has been ground to powder does not come under [the law of] corpse-mould. The following was propounded: If it were ground and then decayed, what would be the law? Is the reason [that corpse-mould defiles] solely because flesh and bones and sinews are present, and here they are present, or do we require it [to have become corpsemould] as in its original form, and this has not occurred? This was left unsolved. 'Ulla b. Hanina learned: A defective corpse does not come under [the law of] corpse-dust, nor does it acquire the soil on which it lies, nor does it help to make an area into a graveyard. The following objection was raised. [We have learnt:] No! Because you say this of a corpse to which [the law concerning] 'the greater part, a quarter [kab]' and 'a ladleful of corpse-mould' applies, would you say it of a living body to which [the laws concerning] 'the greater part, a quarter [kab of bones]' and 'a ladleful of corpse-mould' do not apply? What are the circumstances? [Surely,] that one limb has decayed. And similarly in the case of a corpse, even if one member [has decomposed, the law of] corpse-dust applies? — Does it say, 'whereas in the case of a corpse [the law of corpse-dust applies]'? What we are told is that there are corpses to which [the law of] corpse-dust applies, but there are no living bodies to which [the law of] corpse-dust applies. Raba propounded: If [a man's limb] decayed whilst he was alive and he then died, what would the law be? Does the tradition specify corpse-mould which decayed when he was dead, or perhaps it is enough that he is now dead? — Come and hear [the following]. [We have learnt:] No! Because you say this of a corpse to which [the laws concerning] 'the greater part', 'a quarter [kab of bones]' and 'a ladleful of corpse-mould' apply, would you say it of a living body etc. The reason [that the law of corpse-mould does not apply to a living body] is because it is alive, from which we infer that if he died [the law of] corpse-mould would apply. — Does it say, 'whereas if he died [the law of corpse-mould applies]'? What we are told is that there are corpses to which [the law of] corpse-mould applies, but there are no living bodies to which [the law of] corpse-mould applies. Raba propounded: What is the law concerning a defective ant? Does the tradition specify [a certain] size and this is wanting, or does it specify a [separate] creature and this it is? —