R. Hanina said, Like a broken box. R. Johanan said, Like a ship's keel. According to him who says ‘like a broken box’, we clearly understand where the dishes [of frankincense] were placed, but according to him who says ‘like a ship's keel’, where were the dishes placed? — A special place was made for them. Again according to him who says ‘like a broken box’, we clearly understand how the rods lay [on the sides of the cakes], but according to him who says ‘like a ship's keel’, how could the rods lie [on the side of the cakes]? — Projections were attached to them [on top]. Again according to him who says ‘like a broken box’, we clearly understand how the props supported the cakes, but according to him who says ‘like a ship's keel’, how could the props support the cakes? — They were made obliquely. Now according to him who says ‘like a ship's keel’, we clearly understand the need for props, but according to him who says ‘like a broken box’, what need was there for props? — [For otherwise] they might break by reason of the pressure of the [upper] cakes. Again according to him who says ‘like a ship's keel’, it is clear that the props rested on the table, but according to him who says ‘like a broken box’, where were the props placed? Were they perhaps placed on the ground? — Yes. for R. Abba b. Memel said, According to him who says ‘like a ship's keel’, the props stood on the table, and according to him who says ‘like a broken box’, they stood on the ground. With which view agrees the statement of R. Judah that the cakes held up the props and the props held up the cakes? With the view [that the cakes were] like a ship's keel. 17ᵃᵇᶜᵈᵉᶠᵍʰⁱʲᵏˡᵐⁿᵒᵖᵠ