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Menachot
Daf 88b
but that was outside [the camp];1 and if [to hallow the quarter-log of oil] of the Nazirite,2 but the bread-offering of the Nazirite was hallowed only by the slaughtering of the ram!3 — Said to him R. Hiyya. By it one measured the oil for the griddle-cakes of the High Priest, a quarter-log of oil for each cake.4 Rabbi then applied to him the verse, The man of my counsel from a far country.5 FOR WHAT PURPOSE DID THE HALF-LOG SERVE? Rabbi was sitting and raised this difficulty: Wherefore was the half-log measure anointed? If [it was in order to hallow the water used] in the case of a suspected woman, but was it unconsecrated [water that was used]? Is it not written, Holy water?6 And if [to hallow the half-log of oil] of the thank-offering, but the bread of the thank-offering was hallowed only by the slaughtering of the thank-offering!3 Said to him R. Simeon, Rabbi's son, By it [the priest] divided the oil for the Candlestick, a half-log for each lamp. Rabbi then exclaimed, O Lamp of Israel, it was so indeed. R. Johanan said in the name of Rabbi, If a lamp had gone out,7 both the oil and the wick have become unfit.8 What must he do? He must clean it out, put in it fresh oil [and a fresh wick], and relight it. R. Zerika was sitting and asked the following question, When he puts in fresh oil does he put in the same quantity of oil as at first, or only the quantity needed [for the remainder of the night]?9 — It is obvious, said R. Jeremiah. that he puts in as much oil as at first, for should you say only the quantity needed [for the remainder of the night, the question will be asked]. How do we know how much is needed? But should you say that it9 can be measured,10 then there must have been not only seven measures but numerous measures? [R. Zerika] thereupon applied [to R. Jeremiah] the verse, And in thy majesty prosper, ride on, on behalf of truth and meekness and righteousness.11 And so it has been stated: R. Abbahu said in the name of R. Johanan-others say, R. Abba said it in the name of R. Hanina who said it in the name of Rabbi — If a lamp had gone out, both the oil and the wick have become unfit. What must he do? He must clean it out, put in fresh oil as much as at first, [put in a fresh wick] and relight it. R. Huna the son of Rab Judah said in the name of R. Shesheth: The lamp [at the top of each branch of the Candlestick] in the Temple was flexible.12 He is of the opinion that the expressions ‘a talent’13 and ‘beaten work’14 apply to the Candlestick and also to the lamps; and since the latter had to be cleaned out, were they not flexible, they could not very well be cleaned out. An objection was raised: How did he do it?15 He removed [the lamps from the Candlestick] and put them in a cleansing mixture.16 He then dried them with a sponge, put oil in them, and lit them!17 — He18 agrees with the following Tanna, for it was taught: The Sages say, They did not move it [the lamp] from its place at all. Does this mean to imply that it could be moved if one wanted to do so? — Say rather, They could not move it from its place at all. Who are ‘The Sages’? — R. Eleazar son of R. Zadok is meant. For it was taught: R. Eleazar son of R. Zadok says, There was a kind of thin plate of gold over [each lamp]; when cleaning out [the lamp the priest] used to press it down towards the mouth of the lamp,19 and when putting oil in it he used to press it down towards the back of the lamp.20 And this matter is the subject of dispute between the following Tannaim. For it was taught: The Candlestick and the lamps were made out of the talent,21 but the tongs and the snuff dishes were not made out of the talent. R. Nehemiah said, The Candlestick [only] was made out of the talent, but neither the lamps nor the tongs nor the snuff dishes were made out of the talent. Wherein do they differ? — In the exposition of the following verse. For it was taught: Of a talent of pure gold shall it be made;22 we thus learn that the Candlestick was made out of the talent, but whence do I know that it included the lamps too? Because Scripture says, With all these vessels.22 Then I might think that it included even the tongs and the snuff dishes; the text therefore states, It.22 This is the opinion of R. Nehemiah. (But is there not here a contradiction between the two statements of R. Nehemiah?23 — Two Tannaim differ as to R. Nehemiah's view.) R. Joshua b. Korha says, The Candlestick was made out of the talent, but neither the lamps nor the tongs nor the snuff dishes were made out of the talent. How then do I interpret the words ‘with all these vessels’? That the vessels were of gold. But that they were of gold is expressly stated in the verses, And thou shalt make the lamps thereof seven; and they shall light the lamps thereof, to give light over against it. And the tongs thereof and the snuff dishes thereof, shall be of pure gold!24 — [The former verse] was stated only for the sake of the mouth of the lamp.25 For I might have thought that since the mouth of the lamp becomes black the Torah has consideration for the money of Israel, cake. Similarly for the six cakes offered in the evening. consecrated measuring vessel to hallow the water (Rashi MS. and Tosaf.). morning. In this case the lamp had accidentally gone out in the night. (vaen) out of one piece of gold, the ends of the branches which supported the lamps were made quite thin and flexible so that the whole lamp could be turned in any direction and thus be cleaned out well. the tent’, i.e., in the Temple. Shesheth.
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