Soncino English Talmud
Kiddushin
Daf 25b
This1 is disputed by Tannaim. And that which is bruised, or crushed, or broken, or cut [ye shall not offer unto the Lord]2 — all these refer to the stones: that is R. Judah's opinion. To the stones and not to the membrum!3 But all these refer to the stones too: that is R. Judah's opinion. R. Eliezer b. Jacob said: They all refer to the membrum.4 R. Jose said: ‘Bruised and crushed’ refer to the stones too,5 whereas ‘broken or cut’ refer only to the membrum but not to the stones.6 MISHNAH. LARGE CATTLE7 ARE ACQUIRED BY MESIRAH8 SMALL CATTLE9 BY LIFTING: THIS IS THE OPINION OF R. MEIR AND R. ELIEZER.10 BUT THE SAGES RULE: SMALL CATTLE ARE ACQUIRED BY MESHIKAH. GEMARA. Rab lectured in Kimhunia:11 Large cattle are acquired by meshikah. Samuel, meeting Rab's disciples, said to them, Did Rab rule that large cattle are acquired by meshikah? But we learnt: BY MESIRAH, and Rab too [previously] ruled, by mesirah! Did he then retract from that [view]? — He ruled in accordance with this Tanna. For it was taught: But the Sages maintain, Both [large cattle and small] are acquired by meshikah. R. Simeon said: Both by lifting. R. Joseph demurred: If so, how can an elephant be acquired, according to R. Simeon? — Said Abaye to him: By halifin, or by renting its place.12 R. Zera said: He [the purchaser] brings four utensils and places them under its feet.13 Then you may infer from this that when the purchaser's utensils are in the vendor's domain [and a bought commodity is placed in them] the purchaser obtains a title.14 — The reference here is to an alley.15 thereby be unfit for a sacrifice, and thus the question of his stones is disputed by these Tannaim. contemporary of R. Meir. 296, (v. also n. 4. a.l.) rejects this identification and places it in the vicinity of Sura.
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