כתובות 106:2 — Soncino English Talmud

May vessels of ministry be procured with the offerings consecrated to Temple repair? Are these [a part of] the equipment of the altar and were, therefore, purchased with the offerings consecrated to Temple repair, or are they rather among the requirements of the sacrifices and were, therefore, procured with the Temple funds? — 'They'. the other replied, 'may be procured with the Temple funds only'. He raised an objection against him; And when they had made an end, they brought the rest of the money before the King and Jehoiada, whereof were made vessels for the house of the Lord, even vessels wherewith to minister etc. — The other replied: He that taught you the Hagiographa did not teach you the Prophets: But there were not made for the hose of the Lord cups etc. for they gave that to them that did the work. But if so, is there not a contradiction between the two Scriptural texts? — There is really no contradiction. The former is a case where after the collections were made [for Temple repair] there remained a balance, while the latter is a case where no balance remained. But even if there was a balance after the Collection had been made, what of it? R. Abbahu replied: Beth din make a mental Stipulation that if they be required they should be utilized for their original purpose and that if [they would] not [be required] they should be [spent] on vessels of ministry. A Tanna of the school of R. Ishmael taught: Vessels of ministry were provided from the Temple funds; for it is said in Scriptures The rest of the money, now what funds shewed a balance? Obviously the Temple funds. But might it not be suggested that only the balance itself [could be spent on the vessels of ministry]? — As Raba said, The burnt-offering implies the first burnt-offering, so must the money imply the first money. An objection was raised: The incense and all congregational sacrifices were provided from the Temple funds; the golden altar, the frankincense and the vessels of ministry were provided from the residue of the drink-offerings; the altar for the burnt-offerings, the chambers and the courts were provided from the funds that were dedicated for Temple repair, [and whatever was situated] outside the court walls was provided out of the surplus of the Temple funds; and it is this that [explains what] we learned: The city wall and its towers and all other requirements of the city were provided from the surplus of the Temple funds? — This [point is in fact a question at issue between] Tannaim. For we learned: What were they doing with the surplus of the offerings [for the Temple funds]? Beaten gold [plates that served as] a covering for [the walls and floor] of the Holy of Holies. R. Ishmael said: The surplus of the fruit [was spent on the purchase of sacrifices] for the dry season of the altar, while the surplus of the offerings [for the Temple funds] was spent upon vessels of ministry. R. Akiba said: The surplus of the offerings [for the Temple funds was spent on sacrifices] for the dry season of the altar while the surplus of the drink-offerings was used for [the purchase of] the vessels of ministry. R. Hanina, the deputy High Priest, said: The surplus of the drink-offerings [was spent on sacrifices] for the dry season of the altar, while the surplus of the offerings [for the Temple funds was spent] on vessels of ministry. And neither the one nor the other admitted that [there ever was a surplus] in the [proceeds of the] fruit. What is [meant by] 'fruit'? — It was taught: What were they doing with the surplus of the offering [to the Temple funds]? They bought fruit at a low price and sold it at a higher price, and with the profits sacrifices were purchased for the dry season of the altar; and it is this that [explains what] we learned: The surplus of the fruits was spent on sacrifices for the dry season of the altar. What is meant by 'neither the one nor the other admitted that [there ever was a surplus] in [proceeds of the] fruit'? — [The following of] which we learned: What were they doing with the surplus of the Temple funds? They purchased therewith wines, oils and various kinds of fine flour, and the profit [resulting was credited] to the sacred funds; so R. Ishmael. R. Akiba said: No sale for profit is made with the sacred funds nor out of those of the poor. Why [may no sales for profit be made] with sacred funds? — There must be no poverty where there is wealth. Why [is] no [sale for profit made] with the poor funds? — Because a poor man might come unexpectedly and there would be nothing to give him. IF A MAN WENT TO A COUNTRY BEYOND THE SEA. It was stated: Rab ruled, ^ᵃ^ᵇ^ᶜ^ᵈ^ᵉ^ᶠ^ᵍ^ʰ^ⁱ^ʲ^ᵏ^ˡ^ᵐ^ⁿ^ᵒ^ᵖ^ᵠ^ʳ^ˢ^ᵗ^ᵘ^ᵛ^ʷ^ˣ^ʸ^ᶻ^ᵃᵃ^ᵃᵇ^ᵃᶜ^ᵃᵈ^ᵃᵉ^ᵃᶠ^ᵃᵍ^ᵃʰ^ᵃⁱ^ᵃʲ^ᵃᵏ^ᵃˡ^ᵃᵐ^ᵃⁿ^ᵃᵒ^ᵃᵖ^ᵃᵠ^ᵃʳ^ᵃˢ^ᵃᵗ^ᵃᵘ^ᵃᵛ^ᵃʷ^ᵃˣ^ᵃʸ^ᵃᶻ

^ᵃnote:For use on the 'external' altar, a stone structure in the Temple court.
^ᵇnote:Lit., 'made'.
^ᶜnote:Lit., 'need', 'requirement'.
^ᵈnote:Since the altar was builder's work.
^ᵉnote:Lit. 'come'.
^ᶠnote:Lit., 'they were making them'.
^ᵍnote:Rab.
^ʰnote:That was dedicated to Temple repair.
^ⁱnote:'The priest' is in cur. edd. enclosed in parentheses. It does not appear in M.T.
^ʲnote:II Chron. XXIV, 14; which proves that offerings for Temple repair may be used for the provision of vessels of ministry. An objection against Rab.
^ᵏnote:Rab
^ˡnote:Sc. vessels of ministry.
^ᵐnote:II Kings XII. 14-15.
^ⁿnote:Lit., 'here'.
^ᵒnote:Lit., 'they collected and left over'; hence it was permissible to procure 'vessels wherewith to minister' with the balance.
^ᵖnote:Lit., 'where they collected and did not leave'.
^ᵠnote:Cf. supra n. 8 ab init.; how could funds collected for one purpose lawfully be used for another?
^ʳnote:Lit., 'heart'.
^ˢnote:The funds collected.
^ᵗnote:Lit., 'if they were required they were required'.
^ᵘnote:Lit., 'come'.
^ᵛnote:II Chron. XXIV, 14.
^ʷnote:Lit., 'which is the money that has a remainder'.
^ˣnote:Lit., 'be saying, this'.
^ʸnote:Since after the current yearly expenses were met the balance was allowed to remain in the treasury.
^ᶻnote:But the main funds could not.
^ᵃᵃnote:Pes. 58b, B.K. 111a.
^ᵃᵇnote:[H] Lev. VI, 5, emphasis on the definite article.
^ᵃᶜnote:Sc. that is offered on the altar every morning before all other sacrifices.
^ᵃᵈnote:[H] (II Chron. XXIV, 14) emphasis again on the definite article (cf. supra n. 21).
^ᵃᵉnote:I.e., the income of the current year, and not only the balance. Cf. infra p. 684, n. 7.
^ᵃᶠnote:Lit., 'come'.
^ᵃᵍnote:Which, since it was not attached to the ground and was movable, was not regarded as a part of the structure of the building.
^ᵃʰnote:That was placed at the side of the shewbread. The Wilna Gaon omits frankincense; v. J. Shek. IV, 3.
^ᵃⁱnote:This is explained in Men. 90a.
^ᵃʲnote:The 'external' altar, cf. supra p. 682, n. 10.
^ᵃᵏnote:E.g., the women's court and the city walls.
^ᵃˡnote:Sc. after the expenses for the current year have been met. Cf. supra p. 683, n. 24.
^ᵃᵐnote:Shek. IV, 2. Does not this Baraitha, which lays down that vessels of ministry were provided out of the surplus of the drink-offerings contradict the teaching of the school of R. Ishmael?
^ᵃⁿnote:From which funds the vessels of ministry were procured.
^ᵃᵒnote:When the new year began on the first of Nisan and the funds of the previous year were no longer allowed to be used for the purchase of congregational sacrifices.
^ᵃᵖnote:Of the previous year.
^ᵃᵠnote:Rashi.
^ᵃʳnote:This is explained infra.
^ᵃˢnote:[H]. Sc. when no private offerings were available and the altar lay idle; v. Shebu., Sonc. ed. p. 50, n. 3.
^ᵃᵗnote:Lit., 'and this and this', sc. R. Akiba and R. Hanina.
^ᵃᵘnote:Shek. 6a. Thus it is shewn that the opinion expressed at the school of R. Ishmael is a question in dispute between Tannaim.
^ᵃᵛnote:In the Mishnah just cited.
^ᵃʷnote:V. supra P. 684, n. 10.
^ᵃˣnote:Sc. how could they be so sure of the conditions of the market at all times?
^ᵃʸnote:Lit., 'surplus of the remainder'.
^ᵃᶻnote:Shek. IV, 3. R. Akiba, and similarly R. Hanina (cf. supra n. 1). is thus of the opinion that there could never have been a surplus of tho fruit since it was never sold.