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עירובין 78:2

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If grooves to supplement the width of the ladder, were cut in the wall, up to what height must this be carried? — To ten handbreadths, the other replied. If, he again asked him, all the ladder was cut in the wall, up to what height must this be carried? — Up to its full height, the other replied. Wherein, however, lies the difference? In the former case the other replied, one can easily ascend [to the top of the wall], while in the latter case this cannot be done. R. Joseph enquired of Rabbah: What is the ruling if a tree was set aside as a ladder? The enquiry is made with reference to the view of Rabbi and it is also made with reference to that of the Rabbis. It is made with reference to the view of Rabbi’ since It is possible that Rabbi applied the principle that ‘any act that is forbidden as shebuth is not subject to that prohibition during twilight’ only there where the crucial moment is at twilight, but [not where] the entire day [is involved]; or is it possible that even according to the Rabbis the tree may have the status of a doorway, except that it is one at the side of which a lion crouches? What again is the ruling where an Asherah was set aside to serve as a ladder? The enquiry is made with reference to the view of R. Judah and it is also made with reference to that of the Rabbis. It ‘is made with reference to the view of R. Judah’ since it is possible that R. Judah applied the principle that a house may be bought with objects the benefit from which is forbidden, only there, because after the ‘erub had enabled hint to acquire the place its owner derives no further satisfaction from its preservation; or is it possible that even according to the Rabbis an Asherah has the status of a doorway, except that a lion crouches at its side? — A tree, the other replied, is permitted but an Asherah is forbidden. R. Hisda demurred: On the contrary! A tree the restriction on the use of which is due to the incidence of the Sabbath should be forbidden, while an Asherah the restrictions on which are due to an external cause should not be forbidden. So it was also stated: When Rabin came he reported in the name of R. Eleazar or, as others say: R. Abbahu reported in the name of R. Johanan: Any object the restriction of the use of which is clue to the incidence of the Sabbath is forbidden, while in object the restriction on which is due to an external cause is permitted. R. Nahman b. Isaac taught thus: [The permissibility of] a tree is a question at issue between Rabbi and the Rabbis and that of an Asherah is a question at issue between R. Judah and the Rabbis. MISHNAH. IF A TRENCH BETWEEN TWO COURTYARDS WAS TEN HANDBREADTHS DEEP AND FOUR HANDBREADTHS WIDE, TWO ‘ERUBS MAY BE PREPARED BUT NOT ONE, EVEN IF IT WAS FULL OF STUBBLE OR STRAW. IF, HOWEVER, IT WAS FULL OF EARTH OR GRAVEL, ONLY ONE ‘ERUB MAY BE PREPARED, BUT NOT TWO. IF A BOARD FOUR HANDBREADTHS WIDE WAS PLACED ACROSS IT, AND SO ALSO WHERE TWO BALCONIES WERE OPPOSITE ONE ANOTHER, THE TENANTS MAY PREPARE TWO ‘ERUBS OR, IF THEY PREFER, ONLY ONE. IF THE BOARD WAS OF A LESSER WIDTH TWO ‘ERUBS MAY BE PREPARED, BUT NOT ONE. GEMARA. But does not straw constitute a proper filling seeing that we have learnt: If a heap of straw between two courtyards was ten handbreadths high two ‘erubs may be prepared but not one? — Abaye replied: As regards the formation of a partition no one disputes the ruling that straw is regarded as a valid partition; with regard, however, to its serving as a valid filling it is only in the case where one completely abandoned it that it constitutes a valid filling, but not otherwise. IF, HOWEVER, IT WAS FULL OF EARTH. This then applies even where one's intention was not known. But have we not learnt: If a house was filled with straw or gravel and the owner announced his intention to abandon it, it is duly abandoned, from which it follows, does it not, that only if the owner expressly abandoned it is it regarded as abandoned 66ʰʲˡʳˢʷˣʸᵃᵃᵃᵇᵃᶜᵃᵈᵃᵉᵃᶠᵃᵍᵃʰᵃⁱᵃʲᵃᵏᵃˡᵃᵐᵃⁿᵃᵒᵃᵖᵃᵠᵃʳᵃˢᵃᵗᵃᵘᵃᵛᵃʷᵃˣᵃʸᵃᶻᵇᵃᵇᵇᵇᶜᵇᵈᵇᵉᵇᶠᵇᵍᵇʰᵇⁱᵇʲᵇᵏᵇˡᵇᵐᵇⁿ