Aha Beribi asked: How is it if one saw a swine clinging to a ewe? But what exactly does the question refer to? If it has reference to the law of the firstling and the query is whether the law is in accordance with the view of R. Simeon b. Gamaliel or according to the Rabbis, why not put this query with reference to the case of a lamb? — The query refers to the law of the firstling as laid down by the Rabbis and to the rule as to eating, as laid down by R. Simeon b. Gamaliel. The query refers to [the law] of the firstling, [thus]. [Do we say that] even in accordance with the Rabbis, who maintain that it gives suck [to a stranger], this is only the case [with an animal] belonging to its own species, but to one not belonging to its own species, it does not give suck? Or do we perhaps maintain that even [to offspring] that does not belong to its own species, the animal also gives suck? And also in connection with eating, [the query is put forward]: Do we say that even according to R. Simeon b. Gamaliel, granting that he holds that an animal which has begotten gives suck [even to a stranger], this is the case only when the offspring belongs to the same species [as the ewe], but where it does not belong to the same species, it does not [give suck]? Or perhaps even if the offspring does not belong to the species [of the ewe], do we say that it also gives suck [to it]? — Let this remain undecided. MISHNAH. R. JOSE B. HA-MESHULLAM SAYS: ONE WHO SLAUGHTERS THE FIRSTLING, [FIRST] MAKES A CLEAR SPACE WITH THE [BUTCHER'S] HATCHET ON BOTH SIDES AND TEARS THE HAIR [ON BOTH SIDES] PROVIDED HOWEVER THAT HE DOES NOT REMOVE THE WOOL FROM ITS PLACE [WITH AN INSTRUMENT]. AND SIMILARLY ONE MAY TEAR THE HAIR TO SHOW THE PLACE OF THE BLEMISH [TO A SAGE]. GEMARA. Rab said: The halachah is according to R. Jose b. ha-Meshullam. [The scholars] asked R. Huna: What is the rule about acting similarly on a festival day? Is the reason of R. Jose b. ha-Meshullam because he maintains that tearing is not [considered] the same as shearing and yet on a festival day it is forbidden, for it would be detaching a thing from the place of its growth; or perhaps, does R. Jose b. ha-Meshullam as a rule main tain that tearing is [considered] the same as shearing, but the reason why he permits [in the Mishnah] is because it is a forbidden act which was produced without intent and a forbidden act which was produced without intent is permissible on a festival day? — He replied to them: ‘Go and ask R. Hananel. If he tells you that the halachah is in accordance with R. Jose b. ha-Meshullam, then I shall give you a definite answer’. They went and asked him. He replied to them: ‘Rab said this: The halachah is in accordance with R. Jose b. ha-Meshullam’. Then they came before R. Huna. He said to them: It is permitted to act in a corresponding manner on a festival day. It was also stated: R. Hananya b. Shalmia reported in the name of Rab: It is permitted to act in a corresponding manner on a festival day.ᵃᵇᶜᵈᵉᶠᵍʰⁱʲᵏˡᵐⁿᵒᵖ