Soncino English Talmud
Avodah Zarah
Daf 43b
But are the other attendants permitted? Behold it has been taught: Ye shall not make with Me, i.e., ye shall not make according to the likeness of My attendants who serve before Me in the heights, as, e.g., the Ophannim, Seraphim, holy Hayyoth and Ministering Angels! — Abaye explained: The Torah only prohibited the reproduction of the attendants who are in the highest stratum. Are, then, those in the lower stratum permitted? Behold it has been taught: That is in heaven — this is to include the sun, moon, stars and planets; above this is to include the Ministering Angels! — That teaching alludes to serving then. But if it is a matter of serving them, even a tiny worm is also [prohibited]! — That is so, and [the thought] is derived from the continuation of the verse; for it has been taught: Or that is in the earth — this is to include seas, rivers, mountains and hills; beneath — this is to include a tiny worm. But is the mere making of them permitted? Behold it has been taught: Ye shall not make with Me, i.e., ye shall not make according to the likeness of My attendants who serve before Me in the heights, as, e.g., the sun, moon, stars and planets! — It was different with R. Gamaliel because others made [the chart] for him. But there is the case of Rab Judah for whom others made [a design on a ring], and Samuel said to him, 'You clever person! Blind its eyes!' In this instance it was a ring whose signet was cut in relief and on account of suspicion [that it might be worshipped Samuel objected to it]; for it has been taught: It is forbidden to put on a signet-ring which is cut in relief but it is allowed to seal with it; and if the signet is cut in, one may put the ring on but not seal with it. Do we, however, take into account the suspicion [that an object might be worshipped]? Behold in the Synagogue of Shaph-weyathib in Nehardea a statue was set up; yet Samuel's father and Levi entered it and prayed there without worrying about the possibility of suspicion! It is different when there are many people together. But R. Gamaliel was a single individual! — Since he was President of the Community many persons were always found with him. Or if you wish I can answer that [his chart] was in sections. As a further alternative I can answer that when it is for the purpose of study the matter is different; as it has been taught: Thou shalt not learn to do — but thou mayest learn in order to understand and teach. RABBAN SIMEON B. GAMALIEL SAYS etc. Which utensils are precious and which common? — Rab said: The precious are those which [have the figures] above the water, the common those which have them under the water. Samuel said: Both these kinds are to be regarded as common, but those are precious which are upon bracelets, nose-rings and signet-rings. There is a teaching in agreement with Samuel: The precious utensils are those which [have figures] upon bracelets, nose-rings and signet-rings; the common those which have them upon kettles, pots, vessels for boiling water, sheets and towels. MISHNAH. R. JOSE SAYS: HE MAY GRIND [AN IDOL] TO POWDER AND SCATTER IT TO THE WIND OR THROW IT INTO THE SEA. THEY SAID TO HIM, EVEN SO IT MAY THEN BECOME MANURE, AS IT IS STATED, AND THERE SHALL CLEAVE NOUGHT OF THE DEVOTED THING TO THINE HAND. GEMARA. It has been taught: R. Jose said to [the Rabbis]: Has it not been stated, And I took your sin,
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