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Yoma — Daf 34a
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ת"ל (ויקרא ו, ה) וערך עליה העולה ואמר רבא העולה היא עולה ראשונה
ומנחה לחביתין עולה ומנחה
וחביתין לנסכים שום מנחה
ונסכים למוספין זבח ונסכים ומוספין לבזיכין והתניא בזיכין קודמין למוספין תנאי היא
אמר אביי מסתברא כמאן דאמר מוספין קודמין לבזיכין לאו מי אמרת בבקר בבקר להקדים הכא נמי ביום ביום לאחר
מ"ט דמאן דאמר בזיכין קודמין למוספין גמר חוקה חוקה מחביתין
אי מהתם גמר ליגמרה כולה מילתא מהתם להכי אהני ביום ביום לאחר
קטורת של שחר היתה קריבה בין דם לאיברים וכו' מני אי רבנן בין דם לנרות מיבעי ליה אי אבא שאול בין נרות לאיברים מיבעי ליה
לעולם רבנן היא ובסידרא לא קא מיירי
ושל בין הערבים היתה קריבה בין איברים לנסכים וכו' מנא הני מילי אמר ר' יוחנן דאמר קרא (במדבר כח, ח) כמנחת הבקר וכנסכו תעשה מה מנחת הבקר קטורת קודמת לנסכים אף כאן קטורת קודמת לנסכים
אי מה להלן קטורת קודמת לאיברים אף כאן קטורת קודמת לאיברים מי כתיב כאיברי הבקר כמנחת הבקר כתיב כמנחת הבקר ולא כאיברי הבקר
תנו רבנן (במדבר כח, ז) ונסכו רביעית ההין ילמד של שחרית משל ערבית
To teach us that it said: And he shall lay the burnt-offering in order upon it,1 and Raba said ‘the burnt-offering’ [means] this is the first burnt-offering.2 ‘And the meal-offering [shall precede] the pancakes’ — [For Scripture reads]: Burnt-offering and meal-offering.3 ‘And the pancakes precede the drink-offerings’, they, too, are considered a species of a meal-offering. ‘And the drink-offerings [come before] the additional offerings as is is written: A sacrifice and drink-offerings.4 ‘And the additional sacrifices [come before] the [frankincense] censers’ — But has it not been taught: The [frankincense] censers come before the additional sacrifices? — This is a matter concerning which Tannaim are disputing.5 Abaye said: The view that the additional offerings precede the [frankincense] censers seems more logical, for did you not say that the words ‘In the morning, in the morning’ imply that it is to receive preference before all, thus do the words ‘on the day . . . on the day’6 indicate that it is to be [offered up] last [in the day]. What is the reason of him who holds that the [frankincense] censers come before the additional offerings? — He infers it from the identical expression ‘statute’7 which occurs with the pancakes. If he infers it hence, let him do so complete?8 — Here [the words] ‘on the day . . . on the day’ come in to intimate that they [the frankincense censers] are offered up last [in the day]. THE INCENSE OF THE MORNING WAS OFFERED UP BETWEEN THE LIMBS AND THE DRINK-OFFERINGS. According to whom [is this teaching]? If according to the Rabbis,9 it should come between the blood and the lamps;10 if according to Abba Saul, it should come between the lamps and the limbs?11 — In truth it is in accord with the Rabbis, but he does not treat of the order here.12 THE INCENSE OF THE AFTERNOON WAS OFFERED UP BETWEEN THE [SMOKING OF THE] LIMBS AND THE DRINK-OFFERINGS. Whence do we know these things? — R. Johanan said: Because Scripture said: As the meal-offering of the morning, and as the drink-offering thereof, thou shalt present it,13 i.e., just as with the meal-offering of the morning the incense precedes the drink-offerings, so also here the incense shall come before the drink-offerings. But then, just as there the incense precedes the [smoking] of the limbs, here too the incense should come before the limbs? Is it written: ‘As the limbs of the morning’? It is written: ‘As the meal-offering of the morning’, which means: As the meal-offering of the morning, but not as the [smoking of the] limbs of the morning. Our Rabbis taught: And the drink-offering thereof shall be the fourth part of a hin:14 let him infer [the need of a drink-offering] for the morning sacrifice from the evening sacrifice. bring an offering made by fire unto the Lord, a burnt-offering, and a meal-offering, a sacrifice, and drink-offerings, each on its own day. This is the prescribed order, not to be interfered with. continually. Just as In the morning, in the morning’ was accepted as an intimation that it shall be early in the morning, so ‘On the day, on the day’ may fitly be assumed to be an indication that it is to be offered last in the day. ibid. XXIV, 9. Just as pancakes take precedence over additional offerings, so do the frankincense censers. Abba Saul, but it is preferable to make the Mishnah in agreement with the majority of Rabbis (Rashi).]