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מתני׳ כיצד מערימין על הבכור מבכרת שהיתה מעוברת אומר מה שבמעיה של זו אם זכר עולה ילדה זכר יקרב עולה ואם נקבה זבחי שלמים ילדה נקבה תקרב שלמים
אם זכר עולה ואם נקבה זבחי שלמים ילדה זכר ונקבה הזכר יקרב עולה והנקבה תקרב שלמים ילדה שני זכרים אחד מהם יקרב עולה והשני ימכר לחייבי עולה ודמיו חולין
ילדה שתי נקבות אחת מהם תקרב שלמים והשניה תימכר לחייבי שלמים ודמיה חולין ילדה טומטום ואנדרוגינוס רשב"ג אומר אין קדושה חלה עליהן
גמ׳ אמר רב יהודה מותר להטיל מום בבכור קודם שיצא לאויר העולם תנן אומר אדם מה שבמעיה של זו עולה עולה אין שלמים לא [ואת] אמרת דמצית מפקעת ליה מקדושתה
אמר לך רב יהודה ה"מ בזמן שבית המקדש קיים כי קאמינא אנא בזמן הזה דלא חזי להקרבה
אי בזמן הזה מאי למימרא מהו דתימא נגזר דלמא נפיק רוב ראשו וקשדי ביה מומא
ואימא הכי נמי אפילו הכי הא עדיפא (יתירא) מדאתי ביה לידי גיזה ועבודה
אם נקבה זבחי שלמים נקבה מי קא קדשה בבכורה סיפא אתיא לבהמה דהקדש
ילדה שני זכרים כו' אמרי אי בהמה דהקדש היאך דאקדיש עולה ליהדר עולה אידך נהוי בקדושתיה דאימיה סיפא אתאן לבהמת חולין
ילדה טומטום ואנדרוגינוס כו'
MISHNAH. WHAT DEVICE DO WE USE WITH REFERENCE TO A FIRSTLING?1 HE SAYS IN RESPECT OF A PREGNANT ANIMAL WHICH WAS GIVING BIRTH FOR THE FIRST TIME: IF WHAT IS IN THE INSIDE OF THIS [ANIMAL] IS A MALE, LET IT BE A BURNT-OFFERING. IF IT THEN GAVE BIRTH TO A MALE, IT IS OFFERED AS A BURNT-OFFERING.2 [IF HE SAID:] IF IT IS A FEMALE, LET IT BE A PEACE-OFFERING, THEN IF IT GAVE BIRTH TO A FEMALE, IT IS OFFERED AS A PEACE-OFFERING. [IF HE SAID:] IF IT IS A MALE, LET IT BE A BURNT-OFFERING, AND IF A FEMALE [LET IT BE] A PEACE-OFFERING, THEN IF IT GAVE BIRTH TO A MALE AND A FEMALE, THE MALE IS OFFERED AS A BURNT-OFFERING AND THE FEMALE IS OFFERED AS A PEACE-OFFERING.3 IF IT GAVE BIRTH TO TWO MALES,4 ONE OF THEM SHALL BE OFFERED AS A BURNT-OFFERING AND THE SECOND SHALL BE SOLD TO PERSONS UNDER OBLIGATION TO BRING A BURNT-OFFERING5 AND ITS MONEY BECOMES HULLIN. IF IT GAVE BIRTH TO TWO FEMALES, ONE OF THEM IS OFFERED AS A PEACE-OFFERING AND THE SECOND IS SOLD TO PERSONS UNDER OBLIGATION TO BRING PEACE-OFFERINGS AND THE MONEY BECOMES HULLIN. IF [THE ANIMAL] GAVE BIRTH TO A TUMTUM6 AND A HERMAPHRODITE, R. SIMEON B. GAMALIEL SAYS: NO HOLINESS ATTACHES TO THEM. GEMARA. Said Rab Judah: One is permitted to make a blemish in a firstling before it is born.7 We learnt: [WHAT8 DEVICE DO WE USE WITH REFERENCE TO A FIRSTLING?] HE SAYS [IN RESPECT OF A PREGNANT ANIMAL WHICH WAS GIVING BIRTH FOR THE FIRST TIME]: IF WHAT IS IN THE INSIDE OF THIS ANIMAL IS A MALE, LET IT BE A BURNT-OFFERING. Now this implies only a burnt-offering9 but not a peace-offering,10 and yet you say that he is able to release it altogether from its holiness? — Rab Judah can answer you thus: [The Tanna of the Mishnah] refers to the period when the Temple stood, whereas I refer11 to nowadays when [a firstling] is not fit to be offered. But if your ruling applies to nowadays, what need is there to teach it? — You might have said that we should prohibit, in case the greater part of the head goes forth12 and he then makes a blemish in it.13 But why not say that it is so?14 — Even so, this is better,15 since otherwise he may come to shear and work [the animal].16 [IF HE SAID:] IF IT IS A FEMALE, LET IT BE A PEACE-OFFERING. But is a female [animal] sacred in respect of the law of a firstling?17 — The latter clause18 of the Mishnah refers to a dedicated animal.19 IF IT GAVE BIRTH TO TWO MALES etc. It was asked, If the reference is to a dedicated animal, then let the young which was dedicated as a burnt-offering be a burnt-offering and the other [young when born] retain the holiness of its mother?20 — This latter clause21 refers to an animal of hullin. IF IT GAVE BIRTH TO A TUMTUM OR A HERMAPHRODITE etc. the embryo, the holiness of a firstling no longer attaches to it. a burnt-offering. burnt-offering, for anything which is fit for the altar must be offered on the altar. firstling. How much more so then must it be forbidden to maim a firstling deliberately and deprive it of all holiness! blemish, since he will be careful to cause the blemish only when a small part of the head has emerged and before the greater part comes forth from the womb. till it becomes blemished. and Sh. Mek.): Even so the causing of the loss of a limb (and thus making it blemished before the greater part of the animal has gone forth from the womb) is preferable. to death, the law being that the offspring of a sin-offering is condemned to death. He can therefore change the embryo for another dedication, since the holiness of a dedication only comes at birth but not previously.