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Pesachim — Daf 97b
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כדרבי אושעיא דא"ר אושעיא הפריש שתי חטאות לאחריות מתכפר באחת מהן ושניה תרעה
והא אילו בפסח כי האי גוונא קרב שלמים אלא שמואל כר' שמעון סבירא ליה דאמר חמש חטאות מתות
והא רועה לרבי שמעון לית ליה כלל שמואל נמי חדא קאמר כל שבחטאת מתה בפסח קרב שלמים
ומאי קמ"ל לאפוקי מדר' יוחנן דאמר אין הפסח קרב שלמים אלא שנמצא אחר שחיטה אבל קודם שחיטה לא אלמא שחיטה קבע קמ"ל חצות קבע
לישנא אחרינא ואילו בפסח היכא דאבד ונמצא אחר חצות קודם שחיטה יקרב שלמים שמואל כרבה ס"ל דאמר שחיטה קבע
והא מדקאמר רבי יוחנן עלה אין הפסח קרב שלמים אלא שנמצא אחר שחיטה אבל קודם שחיטה לא אלמא שחיטה קבע מכלל דשמואל סבר חצות קבע
אלא שמואל כרבי סבירא ליה דאמר אבודה למיתה אזלא והא כל אבודין לר' מתין ואילו בפסח היכא דאבד קודם חצות ונמצא קודם חצות רועה קסבר קודם חצות לאו אבוד הוא וקסבר חצות קבע:
מתני׳ המפריש נקבה לפסחו או זכר בן שתי שנים ירעה עד שיסתאב וימכר ויפלו דמיו לנדבה לשלמים
— In accordance with R. Oshaia. For R. Oshaia said: If he set apart two sin-offerings as security,1 he is atoned for by one of them, while the second must be left to graze. Yet surely a Passover-offering in such a case is brought as a peace-offering?2 — Rather, Samuel holds as R. Simeon, who maintained: The five sin-offerings are left to die.3 But surely R. Simeon does not hold at all that [any sin-offering] must be left to graze?4 Samuel too stated one rule [only]: Whatever must be left to perish in the case of a sin-offering must be left to graze in the case of a Passover-offering. Then what does he inform us?5 — [His purpose is] to rebut R. Johanan, who said: No Passover is brought as a peace-offering except if it is found after the slaughtering, but not [if it is found] before the slaughtering, which proves that [in his opinion] the slaughtering stamps [it as a rejected animal]; hence he [Samuel] informs us that midday stamps [it]. Another version: Whereas in the case of the Passover, where it is lost and found after midday [but] before the slaughtering [of the second], it is brought as a peace-offering?6 — Samuel agrees with Rabbah, who maintained: The slaughtering stamps [it].7 But surely, since R. Johanan said thereon: ‘No Passover-offering is brought as a peace-offering save when it is found after the slaughtering, but not [if it is found] before the slaughtering,’ which proves that [in his opinion] the slaughtering stamps [it], it follows that Samuel holds [that] midday stamps it?- Rather Samuel agrees with Rabbi, who ruled: A lost [sacrifice] goes forth to perish — But all lost [sacrifices] are left to perish, in Rabbi's opinion, whereas in the case of the Passover-offering, where it is lost before midday and found before midday it must be left to graze? — He holds that [if it is found] before midday it is not [regarded as] lost, and he also holds: Midday stamps [it]. M I S H N A H. IF A MAN SETS ASIDE A FEMALE OR A TWO-YEAR OLD MALE FOR HIS PASSOVER-OFFERING,8 IT MUST BE LEFT TO GRAZE UNTIL IT BECOMES UNFIT,9 THEN BE SOLD, AND ITS MONEY IS SPENT10 ON A VOLUNTARY SACRIFICE, ON A PEACE-OFFERING.11 the second or after. Similarly, if two are set aside as a security for each other, the unsacrificed one must die. as peace-offerings. But this is already taught in the Mishnah, viz., IF THE PASSOVER-OFFERING IS FOUND AFTER THE SLAUGHTERING, IT IS BROUGHT AS A PEACE-OFFERING; this is explained supra as meaning after the time for slaughtering, i.e., after midday, which proves that if it is still lost at midday it is brought as a peace-offering. separating another, in the view of the Rabbis goes to pasture, whereas in the case etc. (continuing as in the text). reading as, ‘and he brings a peace-offering with its money’. — By separating it for a Passover-offering he has stamped it as such, and since it is unfit, it is regarded as a rejected sacrifice, which cannot be offered itself but must be redeemed and the money expended on a sacrifice. Cf. Mishnah on 96b and n. 6 a.l.