נדרים 12 — parallel

12:1

An objection is raised: Which is the bond mentioned in the Torah? If one says, 'Behold! I am not to eat meat or drink wine, as on the day that my father or teacher died,' [or] 'as on the day when Gedaliah the son of Ahikam was slain,' [or] 'as on the day that I saw Jerusalem in ruins.' Now Samuel commented thereon: Providing that he was under a vow in respect to that very day. What does this mean? Surely that e.g., he stood thus on a Sunday, on which day his father had died, and though there were many permitted Sundays, it is taught that he is forbidden; this proves that the original [Sunday] is referred to. — Samuel's dictum was thus stated: Samuel said, Providing that he was under a vow uninterruptedly since that day. Rabina said, Come and hear: [If one says, 'This be unto me] as Aaron's dough or as his terumah', he is permitted. Hence, [if he vowed,] 'as the terumah of the loaves of the thanksgiving-offering,' he would be forbidden.

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12:2

Shall we say that this is dependent on Tannaim? [For it was taught: If one says,] 'This be unto me as a firstling,' R. Jacob forbids it, while R. Jose permits it. Now, how is this meant? If we say, before the sprinkling of the blood: what is the reason of him who permits it? If after, on what grounds does the other forbid it? But it surely [means]

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