Gittin — Daf 26a

לא רצה האב אינה מקודשת

אמר ליה בין לר' יהודה בין לר"ש לא שנא תולה בדעת עצמו ולא שנא תולה בדעת אחרים אית להו ברירה

והתם כדקתני טעמא אמרו לו לר"מ אי אתה מודה שמא יבקע הנוד ונמצא זה שותה טבלים למפרע אמר להם לכשיבקע:

מתני׳ הכותב טופסי גיטין צריך שיניח מקום האיש ומקום האשה ומקום הזמן

שטרי מלוה צריך שיניח מקום המלוה מקום הלוה מקום המעות מקום הזמן

שטרי מקח צריך שיניח מקום הלוקח ומקום המוכר מקום המעות מקום השדה ומקום הזמן מפני התקנה

ר' יהודה פוסל בכולן ר' אלעזר מכשיר בכולן חוץ מגיטי נשים שנאמר (דברים כד, א) וכתב לה לשמה:

גמ׳ אמר רב יהודה אמר שמואל צריך שיניח אף מקום הרי את מותרת לכל אדם ור' אלעזר היא דאמר עדי מסירה כרתי ובעינן כתיבה לשמה

וצריכא

דאי אשמעינן הך קמייתא בההיא הוא דאיכא לאוקמה כר"א דקתני אין כותבין וקתני כתבו

אבל סיפא דקתני שאין קיום הגט אלא בחותמיו אימא ר"מ היא דאמר עדי חתימה כרתי

ואי אשמעי' בההיא ההיא נמי איכא לאוקמה כר"א אבל הא אימא מדסיפא ר"א הוי רישא לאו ר"א צריכא:

מפני התקנה: מאי תקנה אמר ר' יונתן מפני תקנת סופר ור"א היא דאמר עדי מסירה כרתי ובדין הוא דאפי' טופס נמי לא לכתוב ומשום תקנת סופרים שרו רבנן

ר' יהודה פוסל בכולן גזר טופס אטו תורף גזר שטרות אטו גיטין

ור"א מכשיר בכולן חוץ מגיטי נשים טופס אטו תורף גזר שטרות אטו גיטין לא גזר:

שנאמר וכתב לה: והא כי כתיב לה אתורף הוא דכתיב

אלא אימא משום שנאמר וכתב לה לשמה

and if not she is not betrothed.  — Raba answered him: Both according to R. Judah and according to R. Simeon, it makes no difference whether he keeps the choice in his own hands or leaves it to another: in either case we do decide retrospectively. There [in the case of the Cuthean wine], however, the reason [for their prohibiting] is as given [in the Mishnah quoted]: 'They said to R. Meir, Do you not admit that if the wine-skin should burst [and the wine be spilt]  the man would be found to have drunk wine which had not been freed for ordinary use? He answered them: Wait till it does burst.' MISHNAH. IF [A SCRIBE] WRITES OUT FORMULAS OF BILLS OF DIVORCE  HE MUST LEAVE BLANK SPACES FOR THE NAME OF THE MAN AND THE NAME OF THE WOMAN AND THE DATE. [IF HE WRITES FORMULAS OF] BONDS OF INDEBTEDNESS HE MUST LEAVE BLANK SPACES FOR THE NAME OF THE LENDER, THE NAME OF THE BORROWER, THE AMOUNT LENT AND THE DATE. [IF HE WRITES] FORMS OF CONTRACTS OF SALE HE MUST LEAVE BLANK SPACES FOR THE NAME OF THE VENDOR, THE NAME OF THE PURCHASER, THE PURCHASE MONEY, THE PROPERTY AND THE DATE, TO PREVENT HARD SHIP.  R. JUDAH DECLARES ALL. SUCH [FORMULAS] INVALID [EVEN IF THE BLANKS HAVE BEEN LEFT]. R. ELEAZAR DECLARES ALL OF THEM VALID [IF THE BLANKS HAVE BEEN LEFT] EXCEPT WRITS OF DIVORCE, BECAUSE SCRIPTURE SAYS, HE SHALL WRITE FOR HER, WHICH MEANS, EXPRESSLY FOR HER. GEMARA. Rab Judah said in the name of Samuel: [The scribe] must also leave space for the words. 'You are permitted to [marry] any man.'  And [the Mishnah] follows R. Eleazar who said that the witnesses to delivery make [the Get] effective and the [Get] must [consequently]  be written expressly for the woman concerned. And it was necessary [for Samuel to tell us here that the Mishnah follows R. Eleazar although he has already twice told us so]. For if he had only told us so on the first occasion,  [I might think that the reason why we interpret] that [Mishnah] so as to make it agree with R. Eleazar is to reconcile the contradiction between the first statement of the Mishnah, '[A Get] must not be written' etc. and the second, 'If it was written [on something attached to the soil it is valid],' but [all the same] in connection with the next [Mishnah]  where it also says that a Get is made effective only by the signatures attached to it, I might think that [the Mishnah is there] following R. Meir who said that the witnesses to the signatures make [the Get] effective  [unless Samuel told us the contrary]. If again Samuel had only told us there [that the Mishnah] follows R. Eleazar, [I might think that that is because] there also it is possible to interpret [the Mishnah] in this way, but here [in speaking of the scribe who writes out formulas] since the last [ruling] given is that of R. Eleazar, I should say that the first [ruling, 'If a scribe writes our formulas of bills of divorce etc.'] is not that of R. Eleazar.  Therefore [Samuel] had to tell us this also. TO PREVENT HARDSHIP. Hardship to whom? — R. Jonathan said: Hardship to the scribe, [the Mishnah] following R. Eleazar who said that the witnesses to delivery make [the Get] effective. By rights therefore it should not be permitted to write [beforehand] even the formula of the Get, but to make matters easier for the scribes the Rabbis allowed it. R. JUDAH DECLARED THEM ALL INVALID: he forbade the formulas for fear that the substantive part might also be written in and [he forbade the scribes to write] the formulas of bonds of indebtedness for fear [that they might also write] the formulas of bills of divorce. R. ELEAZAR DECLARED ALL OF THEM VALID EXCEPT BILLS OF DIVORCE: he forbade the formulas for fear that the substantive part might also be written, but he did not forbid the writing of bonds out of fear [that it might lead to the writing] of bills of divorce. BECAUSE SCRIPTURE SAYS, 'HE SHALL WRITE FOR HER.' Rut do not the words 'for her' in the text refer to the substantive part of the Get? — Explain [R. Eleazar's reason thus]: Because it is written 'he shall write for her', which means 'expressly for her', [therefore we forbid the writing of the form for fear it may lead to the writing of the substantive part].