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Gittin — Daf 22b
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ר' אלעזר היא דאמר עדי מסירה כרתי
ואמר ר"א לא הכשיר ר"א אלא לאלתר אבל מכאן עד עשרה ימים לא חיישי' דילמא הוה ביה תנאה וזייפתיה
ור' יוחנן אמר אפי' מכאן עד עשרה ימים דאם איתא דהוה ביה תנאי מידכר דכירי
ואמר ר"א לא הכשיר ר"א אלא בגיטין אבל בשאר שטרות לא דכתי' (ירמיהו לב, יד) ונתתם בכלי חרש למען יעמדו ימים רבים
ורבי יוחנן אמר אפי' בשטרות והכתיב למען יעמדו ימים רבים התם עצה טובה קמ"ל:
מתני׳ הכל כשרין לכתוב את הגט אפי' חרש שוטה וקטן האשה כותבת את גיטה והאיש כותב את שוברו שאין קיום הגט אלא בחותמיו:
גמ׳ והא לאו בני דיעה נינהו אמר רב הונא
R. Eleazar [the Tanna] is meant, for he said that it is the witnesses to the delivery who make [the Get] effective. R. Eleazar further said: R. Eleazar declared [such a Get] valid only if brought [by the woman] before the Beth din immediately, but not if it is brought ten days later, because in that case we have to consider the possibility that there was some condition in it and she altered it. R. Johanan, however, said [that it is valid] even if produced ten days later, because if there was any condition in it the witnesses [to the delivery] will still remember it. R. Eleazar further said: R. Eleazar declared valid a document [of this kind] only if it was a Get, but no other documents, in virtue of the Scriptural verse, And thou shalt put them in an earthenware vessel, in order that they may stand many days. R. Johanan, however, held that even other documents of this nature are valid. But does not Scripture say, 'In order that they may stand'? — That is merely a piece of good advice. MISHNAH. ALL [PERSONS] ARE QUALIFIED TO WRITE A GET, EVEN A DEAF-MUTE, A LUNATIC AND A MINOR. A WOMAN MAY WRITE HER OWN GET AND A MAN HIS OWN RECEIPT [FOR THE KETHUBAH], SINCE THE DOCUMENT IS MADE EFFECTIVE ONLY BY THE SIGNATURES ATTACHED TO IT. GEMARA. [How can a deaf-mute etc. be qualified to write] seeing that they do not understand [what they are doing and therefore will not write with special reference to the woman in question]? — Said R. Huna: